The Order: 1886 Dev Responds To Graphical Changes In New Build; Comparison Shows Improvements

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Ready At Dawn’s Founder Andrea Pessino quickly squashed all the fanboy rumors of The Order: 1886 being “downgraded” when people started to compare the newly released highly compressed footage to the old build.

When The Order: 1886 was streamed on Twitch, it was unfortunately a rather bad stream, not a good way to judge the quality and graphics of the game. There was plenty of screen tearing and drops in frames but as explained by Andrea Pessino, they weren’t actually happening in-game, but more to do with the Twitch streaming.

Thanks everyone! Oh, and the frame rate is actually VERY nice, do not blame us for streaming issues please… : )

there is no tearing when you play the game and if any ever shows up we will squash it. ; )

Some people on NeoGAF decided to compare both builds, even though the newly released footage isn’t exactly of high quality, and as such, not a good measure for comparison. You can check out this comparison below.

Andrea Pessino confirmed that this is not really a “downgrade”, the uniforms for the soldier are different this time around.

those are “infiltration” uniforms, much more logical for combat – the full ceremonial ones are used in other places. : )

the assets are the same or better – you just need a better video.

excuses? Can’t compare a ruined image to full res. Level of detail has not changed, if anything, it is up.

So there you go. This quote is directly from the developer himself squashing all the claims of any sort of “downgrade”. Infact the character models look so much better in the newer build, as compared by NeoGAF member Tratorn.

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If you are curious to know how old this new build is, it is about 3 weeks old.

it is very old, like… 3 weeks old. ; )

steady, sturdy 30fps is what we aim for. : )

So what do you think about new build? Let us know in the comments below.

Khurram Imtiaz

A Geek and Gamer, who loves JRPGs and VITA. Follow him on Twitter and Google+

  • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

    Downgraded with DOF and lighting used to hide lack of transparency and character detail getting nerfed.

    PC wins again. lol

  • CogInTheWheel

    Well the faces do look better. Not sure about the “infiltration uniform” bit though….because I guess even the walls are part of The Order and decided to dress for the occasion by losing detail.

    I will say it went from a colorful picture to Grey/Brown: The Game.

  • Mike Litoris

    Ladies & Gentleman, the console war is on a whole new level!

  • KeeseToast

    Maybe you should watch the actual Gameplay

  • You are flat out wrong

    Sweet early build, Guy Brohski.

    • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

      More like the “POWAH OF THE SUPERCHARGED PC”

      lol can’t even hit a mid range rig. What a joke.

  • JerkDaNERD7

    Can’t wait….will be enjoying this game. I just had to replay Witcher 2. Also fingers crossed on reveal gameplay on Cyberpunk. Damn this bout’ to be the best E3 it seems.

    PC buy for sure.

    • Darthas

      CDPR said they wll start showing Cyberpunk 2077 after the premiere of the Witcher 3. Splitting marketing between 2 titles at the same time wouldn’t be wise.

      • JerkDaNERD7

        Your joking right? Everyone knows what the Witcher series is about. Nothing wrong with giving a peak at what’s to come. In CD Projeckt’s case, that’s two birds with one stone. If it were a multiplat studios like Activision or EA I would be worried.

    • Russell Gorall

      Now bringing Projekt into it will just make everyone feel bad. I am still hoping they bring a Witcher duo to next genish consoles before it releases.

  • JerkDaNERD7

    Typical one and done title. Fingers crossed for H1Z1 and unannounced titles. So far Microsoft has made the right moves when it comes down to games. Will be enjoying the graphics with this game. Just got my PS4.

    • ps4lol

      You don’t deserve a PS4.

      • JerkDaNERD7

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        Haters hate, gamers game…

  • Russell Gorall

    Why are they showing footage that runs at 15 frames a second?

  • Guy Brohski

    In the beginning of that trailer on the rooftop, you see some buildings in the distance that were a good few blocks away. Certainly not “a few miles” into the distance as you put it though.

  • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

    This game has the xbot babies so butt hurt I love it, if they didn’t fear it they wouldn’t try and constantly downplay like they do, ha ha ha jealous little cry babies.

    • JerkDaNERD7

      Looking at the comments section….see no prevalent Xbot sentiment compared to a typical XOne article where it’s rife with Sony faboys. You sure you took your pills?

      • ps4lol

        Another typical dumb, delusional, malicious, constantly wrong microsoft fanboy that has no clue about technology or sales, just feces flinging and screaming like an imbecile.

        You sound upset that PS4 has more powerful hardware, more developer support, and is outselling Xbox by ~3 million. Keep shilling and crying while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

        It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly dumb and wrong.

        You don’t understand business, sales, or hardware specs, all you can do is fling feces and scream “XBOX WON!!1″ like a rabid animal. Microsoft fanboy shills don’t love their console they just hate the success of others.

        PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

        Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, not happening.

        • JerkDaNERD7

          I enjoy playing games…do you?

  • TheDeathStarsKeyFob

    Publishers are ALWAYS going to pimp their games on ultra high spec PC’s at E3 and swear it’s genuine in game console footage
    Crysis 3 was a prime example that mislead a lot of people with PS3/360′s that assumed the amazing graphics shown were console versions.
    It should be law that game makers state what system they are showing.

    That said, I’m more interested in the story here as graphics on PS4 are perfectly good enough for me.

  • Zohak Diaz

    What a downgrade!!! . Damn……. You can fool Sony ponies but not true gamers.

    • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

      Maybe its time to get those eyes checked dumb ass.

      • Zohak Diaz

        Lmfao. Sony pony butthurt.

        • ps4lol

          Mentally ill, time for your pills.

          Another typical dumb, delusional, malicious, constantly wrong microsoft fanboy that has no clue about technology or sales, just feces flinging and screaming like an imbecile.

          You sound upset that PS4 has more powerful hardware, more developer support, and is outselling Xbox by ~3 million. Keep shilling and crying while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

          It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly dumb and wrong.

          You don’t understand business, sales, or hardware specs, all you can do is fling feces and scream “XBOX WON!!1″ like a rabid animal. Microsoft fanboy shills don’t love their console they just hate the success of others.

          PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

          Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, not happening.

          • Zohak Diaz

            Go on. I’m listening

    • ps4lol

      Mentally ill, time for your pills.

      Another typical dumb, delusional, malicious, constantly wrong microsoft fanboy that has no clue about technology or sales, just feces flinging and screaming like an imbecile.

      You sound upset that PS4 has more powerful hardware, more developer support, and is outselling Xbox by ~3 million. Keep shilling and crying while everyone else ignores you and buys more PS4s.

      It’s good to know you’re completely wrong and raging against facts and reality, and nothing you say will happen. I’m constantly right, you’re constantly dumb and wrong.

      You don’t understand business, sales, or hardware specs, all you can do is fling feces and scream “XBOX WON!!1″ like a rabid animal. Microsoft fanboy shills don’t love their console they just hate the success of others.

      PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. Sony still has a large number of 1st party studios and they’re all working on PS4 games. PS4 will make a net profit, Sony won’t go bankrupt. I’m constantly right, as usual.

      Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, not happening.

      • Zohak Diaz

        The butthurt is real

      • CogInTheWheel

        You’re sad.

        Copy + paste this stupidity everywhere else too please, I dont think we all took in your butthurt or slow slip into early on-set dementia.

        • ps4lol

          Are you upset someone is stating facts and reality to dumb, delusional, constantly wrong microsoft fanboy shills?

          • Russell Gorall

            If you didn’t say “Microsoft” in every post you made you would make a better paid employee.

            What does anything here have to do with Microsoft?

    • ps4lol

      These new direct feed screenshots prove there was no downgrade. Anyone screaming “DOWNGRADE!!1″ over badly compressed twitch stream footage can now eat a giant plate of crow. Infamous wasn’t downgraded either.,

      • Zohak Diaz

        Whatever u say Mr blind pony

      • Russell Gorall

        1. That isn’t a feed screenshot.

        2. There are forty other actual GIF’s showing the downgrade.

        3. Sony employee detected.

        • ps4lol

          It wasn’t downgraded, those are direct feed screenshots. You are a wrong and stupid microsoft shill.

          Andrea Pessino on Twitter
          “Can’t compare a ruined image to full res. Level of detail has not changed, if anything, it is up.”
          “Oh, and the frame rate is actually VERY nice, do not blame us for streaming issues please”
          “The assets are the same or better – you just need a better video.”

          There was no downgrade. It’s absurd to think that a few extra polygons making up clothing decorations is some kind of “downgrade” instead of a costume switch, when almost every other visual effect has been upgraded.

          1. The textures are not less crisp. What you’re probably seeing is just a product of more post processing, volumetrics and slightly increased depth of field.

          You get a better look at the textures in this shot, where you can even make out the material properties of his jacket.

          2. Skin shaders have been improved if anything. The eyes certainly have.

          3. The lighting, again, has been improved. And now there’s self shadowing too. There’s improved lighting and shadows, especially noticeable on and behind the woman.

          There’s also other additions. Higher quality depth of field (see the wooden plank through the door in the background), added per object motion blur, and what looks to be added flare coming off of strong reflections on certain materials. They added some more advanced colour grading, depth of field and post processing.

          The lighting is clearly improved. The sub-surface scattering argument is absurd, as the character’s skin looks more realistic than before.

  • anonymous

    Steady, sturdy, 30 frames… what a joke. We shell out another 500 dollars for a system that’s no better than the ones we had, fuck this industry.

    • Chesslyn Blake Groener

      Xbox one eight was $500 not ps4 .. Try harder next time obvious xbot.

      • Russell Gorall

        Xbox One Eight?

    • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

      PS4 was never 500 dollars maybe you were thinking of the xbone.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    Hopefully in 2015 we see as many games to 60fps as there are doing 1080p.

    • Guy Brohski

      Nope. 1090/900p 30fps will be the norm this gen. 1080p 60fps will be reserved for downloadable arcade titles/cross gen titles, and cartoony games for the most part.

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        I really hope you’re wrong about that…but wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right.

      • Spencer

        There have been numerous games already that aren’t simple downloadables that are 1080p60

        The games that will attain this will look great and require special tuning, but are easily possible.

        The only ones that won’t be like that are the games that are bleeding edge graphical powerhouses

      • Russell Gorall

        The game is letterboxed and doesn’t run at 1080p.

        • Guy Brohski

          Yeah, so?

    • http://www.gearnuke.com/ Khurram Imtiaz

      60 fps requires almost double the resources/power. It won’t be possible at all. The 30 fps trend will remain unless the game demands 60 fps. Most games which are 30 fps are designed for that specific frame rate anyways.

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        Yeah that’s true. Still you’d figure since we’re in the new Gen now they would’ve had a handle on this by now. Guess PC really is the holy grail of gaming.

      • Russell Gorall

        How about just a steady 30fps.

        • http://www.gearnuke.com/ Khurram Imtiaz

          Most games are steady 30 fps on current gen.

          • Russell Gorall

            And this isn’t, which was my point.

          • http://www.gearnuke.com/ Khurram Imtiaz

            This isn’t? Have you played the final version of the game?

          • Russell Gorall

            Nope, just looked at it. Have you?

            Do you not know when something you see is below or above a frozen framerate as a gaming journalist?

            Why are you talking about final versions of the game in a build of the game? These are the questions you are looking for.

  • Jeffrey

    They basically changed the environment up, changed the outfits, and put in a different ENB. But textures seem to remain the same. IMO, I prefer the older build because you can make out everything much easier, but the new build does give it a darker feeling and that’s what they’re going for.

  • Placebo

    Why didn’t they simply release the direct capture footage a couple of hours after the Twitch broadcast? Would avoid such discussions and those of us looking forward to the game will be able to see it in all its glory.

  • doom guy

    Luck never seems to be on Ready At Dawn’s side. The faces have improved a lot. Also if they really want the naysayers to shut up, then just release new full res screenshots to compare them to the old.

  • Jato Knight

    I should have worn a depend before watching that video. Game is so gorgeous. If the story is as good as it looks and it runs smooth. Oh my, just speechless.

  • Birdman J.R.

    so what is this game about, im i just gonna be shooting other humans all day, or its gonna be monsters, zombies ?

    • Batnut1992

      Both, I don’t know about zombies but there are certainly monsters you’ll be fighting.

  • DOOMtrooper

    Low resolution, only 30 fps, devs claim they want to make a movie instead of a game, looks like an uninspired ripoff of uncharted with a bit of gears thrown in.
    This Just In: Now all the colours are gone too.

    but the fanboys will still defend this crap. predicting a solid 6 to 7 out of 10 (avg.) for the order.

    fyi: Ryse is a bad/boring game but this game doesn’t have jack over it in the graphics department.

    • jacksjus

      Pass whatever you’re smoking please. CTFU!

    • wrong

      There is about 5 minutes of gameplay available on the internet and none of it is against the “monsters”. How can you make any conclusions just based on these minor things we’ve seen?? The game is based on dark and chaotic 19th century London so of course it’s lacking colours. If there would be rainbows and sunshine all over the place it would lose all the atmosphere..

      • MrSec84 .

        Exactly, the stuff shown isn’t what will make this game suspenseful, it will be the creepy battles against the enemy that The Order’s been fighting for years.
        The rival humans in the footage that’s been shown aren’t what will make this game interesting, although I’m sure those parts will be intriguing in their own rights.

    • Fusion_Pirate

      Wow, I hate to bite at the troll bait, but WOW, you’re an absolute, utter idiot.

      • Russell Gorall

        You realize you have twenty commas in you sentence?

        • Fusion_Pirate

          It’s three commas (not twenty), and if you knew anything about punctuation and grammar, you’d realize they were all correctly placed. Furthermore, can you enlighten me as to what “you sentence” means?

    • MrSec84 .

      It’s a standard native resolution that fits the TV’s most people have in their home in 2014, that’s hardly a low resolution.
      Just because it’s not 4K that doesn’t mean it’s bad.

      This game has a very different setting to any of the games you’ve compared it to & that’s what makes it unique, if you don’t like then who cares, plenty of others are hyped for this.

      The colours are hardly all gone, that’s clear from the actual gameplay shown the other day.

      Ryse doesn’t even touch this game visually, it also runs at a substantially higher resolution, with a more stable, smoother frame rate.
      Features a massively more complex physics system, proper dynamic lighting (as is becoming common on PS4 games), not forgetting some of the best AA seen on a console game to date.

      FYI this footage was already 3 weeks old & shown through a crappy compressed Twitch stream, so things will look even better the next time it’s shown.

    • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

      Wow you truly must be one of the dumbest people on the planet, your jealousy and butt hurt makes me happy though.

    • Geordi Laforge

      Crytek does make a really good engine

      • You are flat out wrong

        A shame they can’t make games.

    • ps4lol

      Infamous is technically superior to Ryse in every way. 1080p, 35 fps average (according to DF), open world, next gen visual effects, cutscenes are mostly realtime, etc.

      If you think a 900p, 25 fps average, QTE corridor brawler with copypasted barbarian enemies and CG movie cutscenes “looks better”, that’s your unfounded opinion.

      Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion

      Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

      Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

      Every console has a power budget that can be put towards resolution, framerate, or visual effects. PS4 has a higher total budget than Xbox. Therefore Forza 5 would run better on PS4, and Driveclub would run worse on Xbox.

      PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

      Even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

      DDR3+ESRAM is still a size and bandwidth bottleneck and difficult to code for. The DMA registers help transfer data between DDR3 and ESRAM, they aren’t super special sauce.

      If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

      Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

      • Russell Gorall

        What does any of this have to do with Microsoft?

        • ps4lol

          He mentioned Ryse, duh.

          • Russell Gorall

            Forgive me. What does this have to do with an essay in console war format?

    • Russell Gorall

      It actually can’t keep up with 30 frames a second during combat. The Order, that is.

      The thing that is worrisome for PS4 owners is the developers announced the game over a year ago and still can’t develop any gameplay that keeps 30fps.

  • Chuck Green

    I don’t really care about the graphics as much as the gameplay. It should look this gen but if this is just a live action movie for 6 or 8 hours then that’s going to be a pass for me.

  • ……….

    To idiots if the graphics look different it’s always a downgrade to them never an improvement god people are stupid

  • MrSec84 .

    The latest picture of the female character Isabeau looks much more natural.
    Her face is much more detailed, RAD has made what already looked amazing even better.

    I like the new uniforms of the main characters, they seem to fit such combat scenarios much better than the formal attire.

    Can’t wait to get a glimpse of the beasts, though I suspect RaD will keep those under wraps until the game nears it’s release, which is looking to be Fall this year.

    • Guy Brohski

      Yes, the characters look very organic and natural.

  • finalform11 .

    I swear ever since the whole watch dogs downgrade thing people have been acting like their experienced professionals.

    • Somerandomperson

      If it is downgrade, Forza 5 had the most significant. I miss the E3 build with 3d audience displayed in real time.

      • CaliforniaDreaming

        Deep Down will have the most significant

        • KeeseToast

          How do you know that??

          • Adlez

            he’s talking bullshit, ignore it.

        • finalform11 .

          so far the major exclusive titles haven’t really had any downgrades.

        • Chesslyn Blake Groener

          How many ps4 exclusives had graphical downgrades so far? None!

          And on Xbox one? FORZA 5

          • Guest

            Forza 5 was graphically downgraded. Ryse was downgraded from 1080p to 900p (a 44 percent reduction) and had its polys cut from 150k to 85k (a 76% reduction). KI was downgraded from 1080p to 720p (a 125% reduction) and also had it particle effects reduced. DR3 was downgraded from 1080p to 720p (another 125% reduction). And Titanfall was originally believes to also be 1080p/60fps and is now a 792p/frame dipping like crazy 60fps (more like 20fps to 60fps) with a whole lot of tearing.

          • Spencer

            Dude.. Where do you get your math?

            1080p -> 900p = 30% reduction in pixels, not 44

            1080p -> 720p = 56% reduction in pixels, not 125 (lol)

            150k polys -> 85k = 43% reduction in polygons, not 76

            If you’re going to troll at least do enough research that you don’t look like a complete idiot.

          • Guest

            Wow, Spencer, what a f*cking moron you are eh? You really do not know how to do math do you? You’ve just proven to everyone here what a moron you are and that you cant do simple math. Here, lets look at this simpy

            1920×1080=2,073,600
            1280×720=921,600
            So you’re gonna tell me that over 2 million (2,073,600) pixels isnt over a hundred percent more than under 1 million (921,600) pixels? So if i had $9 dollars and the other guy $20 dollar, he doesnt have over double my amount? You do realize that 100% of $9 is $9 right? Its 125% more buddy, not 56% you dolt, go back to school! Now im not even going to go over the rest of the numbers. But this right here proves what an idiot you are. But nice try. But if you are going to troll at least do enough research that you don’t look like a complete idiot.
            FACT!!! 1080p is 125% more than 720p
            FACT!!! 1080p is 44% more than 900p
            FACT!!! 900p is 56% more than 720p
            And nothing you say can change that buddy, so try again. And this time come correct so you dont make such an idiot out of yourself. This just proves what idiots xbots are and why MS is even able to lure them, They’re idiots!

          • Spencer

            Okay, dumb fuck, you were talking about a reduction in pixels right? Those are your words. REDUCTION.

            So you’re telling me that going from 1080p to 720p reduces the pixels by 125% of 1080p? If you have 20 dollars, and you reduce the amount of money you have to 11 dollars, you believe that’s a 125% reduction? 100% of $20 is $20 right? So why would a reduction of $9 be 125%?

            If you were to INCREASE 720p to 1080p, yes, that’s a 125% INCREASE FROM 720p. But going from 1080p to 720p is NOT A REDUCTION of 125% from 1080p.

            What you have just shown the world, my woefully ignorant friend, is how dense your fucking retard skull really is. Not only do you not know basic math, but you can’t differentiate between REDUCTION percent and INCREASE percent, so you don’t know language either.

            So before you consider replying to me again with your blissfully moronic sludge of conversation, perhaps do some research or go to elementary school. I have a feeling you could learn a thing or two from a 9 year old.

            Oh and last thing, I’m a Playstation fan, I was just correcting an instance of overwhelming stupidity. Enjoy
            Your day you doof.

          • Guest

            A ha ha ha, you cant even add. Dumb fanboy. You just made a complete idiot out of yourself

    • Jeffrey

      It was never a downgrade, the 2012 version was on PC, the console versions are their own, and then now the PC version today looks even better than the 2012 version. So no downgrade at all, it’s just that PC is more powerful.

      • Prime157

        Except it was a console exclusive, nitwit.

        • Jeffrey

          I’m talking about Watch Dogs, genius.

      • Guy Brohski

        The PC in no way looks better than the 2012 E3 reveal. In fact the 2012 demo had way better explosions, more NPCS, and better rain and DoF effects than the final PC version.

        • Jeffrey

          Yeahhh, no. NPC count changes during the time and where you are at, DoF is about the same. Textures, tessellation, and shaders are better. This is from first hand experience.

      • Obi Alfred

        Not true. Go look at the new comparisons of Ultra PC gameplay vs 2012 E3 footage. When you downgrade a game, it downgrades the whole thing. The game has less particles and clutter density than E3.

        It was definatly downgraded. Not as much as Forza 5 but still a downgrade.

        • Guy Brohski

          You’re absolutely correct.

        • Jeffrey

          I have seen it first hand, it looks better.

          • Obi Alfred

            I played it on my Titan with Ultra settings.

            It is downgraded. Period.

          • Jeffrey

            Comment waiting to be approved, but the PC community unlocked the features that we saw at 2012 e3, you can have your bloom and DoF back.

          • Obi Alfred

            Yeah TheWorse mod. This will be Ubisoft’s downfall.

    • chrisredfield31

      I agree, and what’s worse is that the Xbox fanboys who think they’re smart enough to do it but always end up completely wrong and delusional.

  • dave

    Dem Graphics! Absolutely the best looking next gen game so far (until Uncharted 4 is unveiled!).

    • MrSec84 .

      Yep, it definitely is the best looking game shown on consoles so far.

      • CaliforniaDreaming

        Ryse.

        • MrSec84 .

          Not even close, this destroys Ryse for graphics, the gameplay looks way more fun too.

          • CaliforniaDreaming

            Fun? lol.

            Same Corridor

          • MrSec84 .

            Not just corridor, it takes place all over London, has far more gameplay elements than Ryse, more than just the same simple hack & slash, a very varied melee system, including cover shooter mechanics.
            The QTE actually has options in it that effect the game.

            All that’s been shown so far is gameplay against human opponents, but this game also features monsters, so will have way more varied combat than in Ryse.

          • CaliforniaDreaming

            Okay, just a Gears of war like so.

          • andy

            No steroid taking looking characters that shout like dumb americans, Unreal 3 engine, bodies disappearing after 5 seconds here mate. Well that’s all I think of when it comes to Gears.
            Did you know that the Uncharted series, winner of over 400 GOTY awards, has the most incredible cover system because of the way the animations in the game were 10 years in advance of the time. The series also runs on a PROPRIETARY game engine like so many Sony games including The Order. Maybe compare it to that then idiots since it has far more in common. If it is like Gears, I won’t be buying it lol.

          • Eboyd27

            You must be retarded, gears 3 is a masterpiece. The game uses physics and innovated the cover system and truly mastered it better than other other game.

          • chrisredfield31

            They copied Uncharted 2, check dates.

          • Guy Brohski

            Gears 1 came out before Uncharted 1 and you can tell Naughty Dog borrowed the cover system from EPIC games, lol. Uncharted is a good looking game with great animation, but it’s not entirely original.

          • chrisredfield31

            I’m not gonna lie. They did borrow off of Gears 1 for Uncharted 1, but for UC2, the physics were out of this world, it was clear that Gears 3 was inspired by UC2.

          • John

            gears 2 was a masterpiece, gears 3 is a piece of shit

          • Guest

            Wow, i cant believe you used the word “Gears” and “masterpiece” in the same sentence. Each Gears has gotten worst than the one before it. Gears 1 was the best and then has just steadily gone downhill from there. And did you really just try and tell us that the played out a$$ unreal 3 engine is impressive? You need to get out more.

          • Eboyd27

            Because you have no skill,
            Gears 2 would have been a masterpiece but horrible lag and servers held the game back.
            Lol theres no multiplayer like gears

          • Guest

            Oh please, i’ll do you. You got no skills.

          • Dylan Harris

            every chapter is vastly different, nice try fanboy.

          • Amith Thomas

            Nope, the comparison you’re making is unfair.
            Due to the big power difference I think PS4 games will look much better than Ryse and other Xbox One games , without a doubt.
            However in this case, what exactly do you have to base your statement on ? I’ll answer that – nothing.
            Ryse has waaay bigger environments, and deals with different kinds of weather and lighting conditions, different setting ! and looks pretty damn amazing. This has small, dark environments, with very limited vision. One thing is that all games look better in those conditions, just look at Watch Dogs, or Arkham Knight. The second thing is that these two are completely different.
            There is literally no way to compare the two. Please show me some reasonable comparison shots.
            At the end of the day, I’ll put my money on The Order being more impressive, but the statement you made has literally nothing to back it up.

          • MrSec84 .

            There’s tonnes to base my comparison off of.
            Firstly there’s a noticeable gap in resolution which adds clarity to The Order’s image.
            There’s the added geometry of both the characters & the environments in this game.

            Textures are far more detailed & realistic.
            There’s real material simulation present in this game, this is very clearly visible.
            Little details like how the clothing, like jackets react with the wind & as a character moves, that’s far more accurate than the clunky movement of Ryse.
            There’s dynamic lighting created by the realistic Thermite Rifle.

            Volumetric fog is present, something that isn’t as present in Ryse.

            The level of image filtering is much more accomplished than in Ryse, actually that AA is more demanding than practically any other console game shown to date, the fact that it’s running at the resolution it is makes this even more impressive.

            You’ll notice that I never said this game is the best thing since sliced bread, as far as graphics go, but compared to Ryse it is night & day a more next gen looking game.

            The environments aren’t larger in Ryse, vistas are much further drawn, especially in when the characters are scoping out the enemy on rooftops.
            From what’s been shown so far this game is far more technically accomplished.

            Whether you’re as impressed or find this pleasing is a subjective thing, but from a technical POV TO1886 is much more demanding, which is why I said Ryse gets destroyed by this.

          • Prime157

            Lol, remember the weird boob movements in Ryse?

          • Guy Brohski

            Ryse has a greater draw distance than The Order, has very realistic materials like cloth, banners, dangling armor parts etc. and it also has a nice full screen image. It also appears that Ryse has much more detail in its environments as far as geometry. I must say that The Order does indeed have very detailed character models and very cool looking weapons. I have no doubt that ultimately The Order will be a much better game overall, but its visuals in no way “crush” Ryse’s graphics.

          • MrSec84 .

            Not even close, as I said in my last reply (also linked the IGN trailer from Feb 26 2014) there have been moments where you can see far out into the London skyline, at least a few miles, that’s more than Ryse has to offer.
            Ryse’s image isn’t as clear, Ryse is very hazy looking, the materials are nowhere near as accurate as in The Order & no the environments aren’t as complex on geometry or textures.

            We’ll likely see a better quality video Tuesday when the embargo ends failing that sometime at either E3 or around then.

            The visuals are pretty night & day better than Ryse, the fact The Order’s handling the level of physics it is, with so much more demanding AA at such a higher resolution makes this an even more impressive feat.

          • Dylan Harris

            no, its not hazy in the least bit. you officially do not know what your talking about.

          • Yldefonso Then

            Unfortunately, Ryse sucks as a game anyways. The Order isn’t even out yet and everyone is already amazed at how it looks, unlike Ryse that it was only temporary.

          • Dylan Harris

            ryse is great, stop being a fanboy. Ryse is still the best looking game, besides maybe killzone 4. that is a common belief, and ryse is very fun, its the same thing as arkham asylums combat, you obviously havent tried it either.

          • Reason Freeman

            “besides maybe killzone 4″ and infamous. These shots arent touched up or the system doing any special effects on them other than adding a color filter like black and white. This is all ingame, all you gotta do is pause the game and zoom in on it and this is how it looks close up. Amazing and by far the best look game otut there. Thats is until The Order comes out.

          • ps4lol

            LOL

          • DX12

            Ryse looks like a game. And a stiff, choppy one at that. GOW 3 looks better than Ryse. TO looks like CGI, it looks like the FMV cutscenes. The game looks incredible and unlike any other game out there. And the framerate looks good cuz its got motion blur and i love motion blur, itmakes it look more realistic.

          • Guy Brohski

            LOL GOW 3 with Kratos’ flat chain texture wrapped around his arm looks so last gen, and don’t look down at Kratos’ feet either. You will see the limitations of PS3. I like your Ryse pic up there with the scribbled on hater message of butthurt. It’s funny.

          • Amith Thomas

            lol sorry but Ryse looks way more impressive than God of War xD. Please stop making hilariously bad comparisons. The only thing about those pictures is the colour saturation. That is, GOW looks oversaturated. Ryse looks pretty damn amazing, and is a lot more realistic. It just looks a TON better, which is to be expected since it’s the next generation from the last GOW game
            Everyone knows that xD

          • Dylan Harris

            it doesnt matter if ryse has less resolution, it still blows any 1080P game out of the water, at only 800.

          • MS

            900p moron. God, these xbots are dumb.

          • Prime157

            Ryse was one, boring linear game. More linear fighting and more corridors than ff13.

            We’ve seen about 5 total minutes of the order. A trailer or two, and this snippet of gameplay that twitch mucked up.

            I’m not sure why you people don’t get idea direct feeds and compression yet. You call yourself gamers, but you can’t see it? Or at least know it’s there?

            Crytek is good at making pretty games, yes. Ryse is ok in gfx, but there’s only so much that gpu can do.

          • Dylan Harris

            ryse is fucking great, I’ve gone through that game 2 times now and about to go for a 3rd. its not boring at all, there are many games that are way more boring, like call of duty. and no, ryse is not just “ok” in graphics.

          • Amith Thomas

            Good, I agree with what you said about Ryse. I’ve said that so many times already.
            It’s just that the way people do compare everything else with The Order is sometimes really stupid. The comparisons are soooo lame. I still struggle to see how you can compare The Order footage to Ryse footage and objectively say “The Order is so much better”
            There is almost nothing fit for comparison at all. They are so different. You keep going back to Ryse’s gameplay. So what ? I agree the game sucks. Not the point.

            Direct feed ? I’m talking about Ryse footage that I watched, just like The Order, not like I played Ryse. I wouldn’t want to anyway, besides I don’t have an xbox or ps. I know I am a gamer because I don’t make senseless comparisons the way some people have.
            Please read my previous comments before concluding that I hate Sony, or The Order or anything at all. I think The Order will be more impressive graphically than Ryse, given PS4 power advantage. That’s still not the point.
            I was just responding to a particular comparison (that comment was probably a long time ago) which was really stupid. Like I said, almost no grounds to compare… so that was just fanboyism.

          • Guest

            You’re crazy guy, The Order looks better than Ryse. And here we go again, with people thinking Sony hyped something when they didnt. When did Sony ever say The Order has the best graphics? Oh yeah thats right never! Its the people saying it. So if anybody is to be blamed for hyping it, its the people. But then again, it just says, that the people think its the best looking game. Ryse is really not that impressive a game at all. Its 900p on a next gen systeem, stiff a$$ animations. Prerendered Cut scenes (in other words video), a choppy framerate that struggles to maintain 30fps. And got a whole slew of other downgrades before release. And all coming from a company that is all about graphics. GOWIII, a last gen game gives Ryse a good run for its money. Just look at these shots, and they are ingame. And the game runs at 30+ fps often at 45 to 60fps even. And doesnt look jerky, like Ryse. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying Ryse is an ugly game or anything but the fanboys try to hard to pretend like its SO good looking, when its not.

          • MrSec84 .

            God of War 3 really was an amazing game, in all aspects, I can’t wait to hear what SSM has in the works for PS4.

            The fact a PS3 game can look that good compared to something on a current gen console is really testament to SSM’s talent, even more impressive considering that they pushed things even further in Ascension.
            Not that I’m knocking Crytek as Ryse does look good.

          • Amith Thomas

            Wow, I’m a PC gamer comparing two games in terms of what I’ve seen from released footage, that’s all. I actually happen to be excited for The Order and for every other PS4 exclusive (Uncharted 2 blew my mind)
            I’m starting to think it’s people here who are fanboys. Sorry, but that GOW comparison is pathetic. Wow it’s pathetic. Yes, GOW looks better if the only parameter you are considering is colour oversaturation. Lol. Pathetic. Literally everything else looks better in Ryse, despite the fact that the Ryse screenshot was pathetically and unfairly taken. Just.. wow.

          • sodapop pimpskz

            Are you really comparing a launch game to a game that might not release in 2015? Ryse looks amazing for what it is but you can’t fairly compare the two

          • Dylan Harris

            your wrong too, ryse’s animations arent stiff at all. and the framerate is perfect now. so stop being a drama queen. ryse is not jerky at all, maybe you should try actually playing the damned game before you trash talk it because its obvious you don’t know what your talking about. I just got done playing it on the hardest difficulty, and not once does the framerate screw up.all of you people need to stop talking out of your ass. and the gameplay LOOKS like the prerendered cut scenes, except with perfect reflections.

          • ps4lol

            LOL the framerate is as bad as ever. See Digital Foundry.

          • Guest

            Oh cry me river! It most defnitely does have stiff and jerky animations and the a choppy framerate and the cutscenes look betetr than the ingame graphics, you drama queen.

          • Amith Thomas

            Wow, you’re kidding me right ? GOW looks way better, if by better you mean more colour saturated. LOL
            Very nice how someone took that particular screenshot of Ryse. Why not take some shots you can actually compare fairly ? Oh right, that’s becaues Ryse would look about 10,000 times better.(which you’d expect from next gen) Pathetic comparison, and even more pathetic that you’re using that. WOW I really am surprised.
            I’m a PC gamer. I do think The Order will be more impressive than Ryse when it comes out. Pathetic comparison. It’s funny because even with the purposely bad screenshot of Ryse, anyone using any logic can see it looks 100 times better than GOW 3 or Ascension.

            Tell me please, what exactly looks even close in those screens ? The oversaturated, cartoony colours in GOW ? The plastic like, uncanny Kratos model ? (don’t get me wrong, GOW has always looked great, but this comparison is just lame) Go ahead, name one specific feature from those screens. And before you talk about character models, please get a similar screenshot from Ryse.

            I don’t care about Ryse. It came out and it apparently sucked like hell. Too bad. I’m a PC gamer who likes all good games on any platform, and happen to be very excited about all console exclusives, especially Sony’s because they have always been the highlight of PlayStation. They are the reason I actually really want a PS4, and wanted a PS3 before that. (I loved Uncharted 2 on PS3)

            This comparison sucks lol, it actually shows the expected difference b/w previous gen and current gen, despite the particulary picked out Ryse shot.

            If I’m coming off as overly offensive, forgive me. I’m just feeling argumentative and have too much free time :)

            Sony didn’t say anything. It’s the devs that said things like “I don’t think people have seen this before” “this level of simulation” and so on and so forth…
            So that’s what I meant. I was disappointed because of that. The thing about The Order is that people always say it looks incredible, but then I look at the screenshots they are drooling over and what do I see ? Some nice character models, good shaders, lighting, limited environment with some nice reflections. Then what ? Nothing, just some low poly counts here and there, and flat textures. Nothing impressive to me about that. I was very disappointed =/

          • Guest

            You’re crazy kid, GOW3 looks better. Get over it.

          • Amith Thomas

            Wow xD. Ok dude. No point arguing here.
            I’m a sensible PC gamer, who actually likes PS exclusives better for their quality. I don’t own any console, but I would get a PS4 over XBONE.
            but it’s so clear who the ‘kid’ here is. Seriously. And I know it’s the case given your pathetic response, but hey, that’s the only thing you can do right? It’s not like you can take my comment into consideration and actually logically argue, because you’d prove yourself to be wrong.

            It’s ok then, you’re completely right, GOW3 looks so much worse, errr I mean better, go along now.

          • Guest

            Still all hurt byt it eh? still cant get over it? GOW3 looks better, deal with it. You sensitive little boy. And if you think you’re a mature man, boy are you in for a surprise, manchild.

          • Chesslyn Blake Groener

            You dont actually know how big the enviroments will be for the order since its not release. So you cant know the weather and lighting conditions either based off of a few videos. Ryse has been released so you know what that game offers.

            On a side note, Infamous second son is an Open world game( much bigger environments than ryse) that Runs better (fps and resolution) and has better graphics than ryse son of Rome! So I don’t understand the point you tried to make.

          • MrSec84 .

            Yep Infamous is much more impressive graphically compared to Ryse, running at a higher resolution, with superior AA & physics makes that even more impressive.

            The Order is a further step along than even Infamous, which is to be expected with it being a linear game.

          • Amith Thomas

            Again, personally, I feel that footage of Infamous SS is way more impressive than The Order 1866. Don’t get me wrong The Order looks amazing, but the footage doesn’t impress me a lot. Nice looking characters, nice lighting, small environment – walls and streets with some reflections to good effect. That stuff just doesn’t excite me because I’ve seen it so many times. Lots of games look rather photorealistic in enclosed modern settings.
            Anyway, The Order might look better than Infamous SS. It might be that I haven’t seen footage that shows that. Maybe it’s just the lighting conditions and all that.
            The reason I see Infamous looking better is because of the kind of game it is. It shows amazing realtime effects, but in large environments, bright lighting (allowing you to really notice all the eye candy) and so on.

          • Guest

            They arent going to listening to your astute and sound reasoning and explanation. These are fanboys, menchild. They dont care about the truth. They only care about their allegiance to their beloved company. I mean think about it, Think about what MS wanted to do to them, the rights they wanted to take away from them, the fact MS sold them an inferior product for more money and they are still willing to stand by them and fight for them. These are some truly far gone people.

          • Dylan Harris

            taking away rights? they wanted to go with a digital future, the only manchild here is you.

          • Guest

            Ok Dyaln Harris, you’re even more ret*rded than i thought. A digital future? What a deluded moron you are. You really need to wake up and get of MS’s nuts cuz its making you look real stupid. They wanted to prevent used games sales, unless they got their cut. The wanted to prevent you from lending you games out to friends. And you arent even a manchild, you’re just a straight up child. Now stop sounding like you’re about to cry everytime somebody doesnt praise your beloved MS. Stupid kid!

          • Amith Thomas

            ????
            I’m a PC gamer. I’m literally just stating that footage of Ryse I watched currently looks more impressive than released footage of The Order.
            Maybe that’s mostly because of the fact that Ryse can show off it’s features better given the scale and lighting differences etc. Maybe The Order will end up being much more impressive. From what they have shown though ? It’s just that I was genuinely hyped for it on the visual side after everything that was being said about it. (I’m very excited for just about ANY of these exclusive console games, especially Sony – yes… Naughty Gods…)
            I was disappointed by the footage initially released.
            Right now, after seeing a couple of those badass weapons and that new enemy and whatnot, I’m optimistic about it.
            Still, you get the point I was trying to make ? I was also saying that comparing the two is sooo stupid anyway. Saying ‘This is way better’. What do you have to compare by ? They are so different, and as a gamer myself I really can’t see how you can do an objective comparison and come up with that result.

          • Dylan Harris

            ryse has no technical issues, the framerate never drops anymore, and there is usually a lot more going on then infamous. and who gives a shit if it has a higher resolution? You cant even tell ryse isn’t 1080P so stop being a fanboy.

          • Guest

            Buahahahaha, Ryse drops in frames all the time! And infamous sh*ts all over Ryse. And just cuz your pathetic a$$ cant tell Ryse runs at 900p doesnt mean the rest of us cant tell. Grow up kid.

          • Chesslyn Blake Groener

            Well if you haven’t noticed this gen is all about resolution and fps. Every time a new game is announced the resolution and fps get scrutinized. Stating the obvious doesn’t make me a fanboy.

          • Amith Thomas

            I didn’t compare it to Infamous at all. I was comparing it to The Order 1866. It’s just that based on what I have seen (AND ONLY THAT, i know), I thought what I saw from Ryse was more impressive visually. That’s all. Part of the problems is what you said. A few videos have been shown. The only thing they’ve shown till now are small environments with some reflections. Some nice character models and amazing material shaders and whatnot. It’s hard to be thoroughly impressed by that.

            I played Splinter Cell conviction on PC a number of years ago. I took screenshots of those, and some of those look more impressive than these screenshots (probably because of different lighting conditions letting you see more detail) but you see what I mean ? The character models were absolutely mindblowing, the graphics in smaller, non natural environments were photorealistic. So when every gameplay video that has come out till now shows nice character models and walls with nice lighting, shaders and reflections, it’s hard to be impressed that much by the visuals.

            At the end of the day, I do think The Order will be better than Ryse in the tech/visuals department. The PS4 is more powerful ! Also, Sony first party devs are just amazing. Ofcourse PS4 exclusives will look better, no doubt.
            Still, they are so different, and the footage released as of now doesn’t beat what I’ve seen from Ryse. I prefer Ryse footage for graphics right now, maybe simply because the lighting conditions in those videos let me see all those great visual features.See what I mean ? Ryse isn’t overly impressive to me either ofcourse, since I do game primarily on PC :P

          • Guy Brohski

            The Fog 1886 running in 800p doesn’t look better than Ryse, sorry bro.

          • MrSec84 .

            800p would be 1500X800, The Order is technically 1920X800, so it has the same pixel density as native 1080p.
            Yes The Order has far more advanced Volumetric Fog than Ryse, sorry dude.

          • Mike C

            sorry but who cares, why but black bars on it makes no sense, nobody wants black bars there only in movies because cinemas use a different aspect ratio, no one’s playing this on a cinema screen so just make it 16.9, rant over.

          • MrSec84 .

            The aspect ratio is the choice of the developers, it fits with the film-like style of the game.
            So what if you don’t like it, it stands out from other games in a good way & tonnes of people are fine with it.
            If you don’t like the game then you don’t have to play it. ;)

          • Mike C

            lol. how can it be film-like style when films are not meant to be seen with black bars the black bars a consequence of us not having the right screen like cinemas.

          • ThePokeMaster

            Yes it is cinematic. A lot of home video has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Not only widescreen DVDs on SD screens but even Blu-rays on HDTVs today still have the black bars because the original ratio is usually 2.39:1 or 2.40:1.
            So yes, it’s a design choice and it’s time to get over it.

          • Mike C

            I still don’t understand the design choice, I understand why movies use 2.39:1 so you get the wide shot on a screen that supports the ratio but why would anyone use that aspect ratio if no one owned the right screen to play it on.

          • ThePokeMaster

            No TV screen supports 2.39:1, so we still see black bars in many movies today. I’m just used to it.

          • Mike C

            no, there are T.V’s that have 21:9 aspect ratio only downside T.V shows have black bars.

          • ThePokeMaster

            Yeah but those are pretty uncommon. I hope they catch on in a few years.

          • Mike C

            I think they will among movie buffs, but Joe public no, unless T.V start filming in 2.39:1 aspect ratio. lol

          • Guy Brohski

            But The Order isn’t a movie that made a theatrical debut at 2.39:1, so the black bars in this game are dumb and annoying because of that.

          • ThePokeMaster

            It’s not a movie but it’s part of its design. Many games have different design choices and looks to them. This one is going for the cinematic look. Pretty simple.

          • Guest

            Ok, what are you 12yr olds? What a whiny, stupid rant. Grow up and be a man. Im sure you can handle some black bars for effect. Jeesh! Somebody give this kid (or man-child) his bib.

          • Mike C

            what effect, back bars are not an affect they are penalty and the reason I complain is because I have a plasma T.V you fucking idiot.

          • ThePokeMaster

            I bought all my DVDs in widescreen back when most TVs were standard def/ratio so I got the black bars all the time.
            Quit whining.

          • Mike C

            what are you on about, Movies have black bars for a reason because people see movies first at the cinema that’s why the aspect ratio is set to 2.39 :1 to give the cinema audience the best experience as a consequence of not having the same aspect ratio as cinema screens when we watch it on our T.V we get the black bars.

          • Guy Brohski

            You know your concepts are real interesting, Mike. But unfortunately for you, The Order didn’t debut in a cinema, and the black bars are really unnecessary and pointless in this game.

          • Mike C

            what? lol that’s my whole point if you read my comments above that’s what I have being saying that black bars are pointless.

          • Guy Brohski

            My bad, I misread your comment.

          • Mike C

            okay mate, we think a like, yeah I don’t get this cinematic style the developers say they trying to achieve either, cinemas have 2.39:1 aspect ration in order to get a wider shot but not at the expense of screen real estate, so the order 1886 by not mimicking a cinema screen is now cinematic.

          • ThePokeMaster

            Resident Evil 4 had black bars. No one bitched.
            A PS exclusive does it and all the fanboys come out and hate.

          • Mike C

            first off not a fan boy, second because another game did it that means I can’t have an opinion.

          • Christopher

            Nope. Cinemas change the aspect ratio depending on the film. Example: The new Godzilla film has a 2.39:1 aspect ratio so it’s projected on the screen at 2.39:1. The film Prisoners (2013) was shot at 16:9 so it was displayed at the cinema at 16:9.

            When Godzilla is released on DVD it’s native format will still be 2.39:1 so when you pop the disc into your DVD player the film will be displayed on your television with those “black bars” you seem to dislike.

          • Mike C

            I don’t just hate the black bars on this game I hate them on movies as well, why is it a problem if I don’t love black bars, am I supposed to be happy that the image only uses 2/3 of my screen.

          • Guy Brohski

            LOL, I’d like The Order more if the draw distance wasn’t limited to 500 feet, but sure volumetric fog rocks, bud.

          • MrSec84 .

            I take it you haven’t seen the rooftop scenes from the official gameplay reveal?
            In the last trailer the draw distance was anything but short, you could see for miles.

          • Guy Brohski

            I’ve watched the newest trailer, and while I enjoy the weapon effects and character models very much, I never saw more than maybe 1,000 ft in the distance without heavy fog creating a complete white-out of the distance. It’s obvious that Ready at Dawn made some trade-offs in order to create such detailed character models. The black bars, heavy fog, and mostly monotone color palette being a few of these trade-offs. It really doesn’t matter much to me, but I do wish they’d at least get rid of the black bars. It’s annoying when only around 60% of your HD screen is being utilized.

          • Guest

            The “black bars” as you put it are a design choice to make the game look more like a cinematic movie. Do you also whine and complain about the black bars on most movies? especially Blurays? Also, b*tching about the fog. You do realize that this is in London right, where its cloudy an aweful lot of the time,…right? And you know that fog tends to happen on cloudy days right? And they are trying to create a creepy, mysterious atmosphere, because of the creature, monster things in the game. And monotone colors? Like that has any effect on the performance of a system. The only time colors effect your performance is when they are alphas. So quit your whining and try and come up with some better excuses, Cuz these ones, you’ve used thus far are pretty weak and lame.

          • Guy Brohski

            Oh, the black bars are just a design choice? Cool, so they can include an option to remove the un-necessary annoying black bars and the game would still run the same framerate with the same level of detail? Nope, GTFO. The choice was made to reduce the screen real estate by 40% so they could include detailed character models and more particles. No one prefers only having 60% of their HD TV’s screen utilized.

          • MrSec84 .

            Well design choice isn’t user choice preference, it’s an aesthetic choice that they stuck with, because of how they wanted the game to look.

            Technically they gave themselves two choices, either leave the image full screen & reduce the AA to something less demanding or reduce the image by 35% (not 40% as you like to over exaggerate) & have full on 4XMSAA.
            The level of detail, particle effects, basically everything else about the game is unaffected in either case.

            Considering this game is meant to be more film like & many people that like games like that also like this aspect ratio.
            Personally I’d rather also have no jaggies, as it’s more believable in a game like this.
            Considering the edges are nice & smooth & RaD appears to have achieved that great film style image I’m pretty happy with the outcome, definitely love the differentiating style compared to other third person games.

            TBH this will be much more immersive for what the developers are trying to make.

          • Christopher

            I think 2.39:1 cinemascope looks a lot better than fullscreen 16:9. But that’s just my opinion. I’ve been wondering why games don’t use a cinemascope aspect ratio…I was pleasantly surprised when it was announced that The Order would use it.

          • ps4lol

            Factual PS4 Hardware Advantages: +6 CUs, +560 GFlops (44% greater), +16 ROPs, +6 ACEs/CQs, better GPGPU support, better performing CPU, and faster unified memory. PS4 OS may also have less overhead or reserves.

            Both Sony and MS have world class coders that will extract every bit of performance out of their consoles with their drivers/APIs/SDKs. The difference is PS4 simply has more powerful hardware to work with, so it will always stay ahead in graphics performance.

            Every console has a power budget that can be put towards resolution, framerate, or visual effects. PS4 has a higher total budget than Xbox. Therefore Forza 5 would run better on PS4, and Driveclub would run worse on Xbox.

            PS4 will have better performing games for the entire generation as it has more powerful hardware, you can’t overcome a hardware gap with better drivers/SDKs. Any game running on Xbox One can be run with better framerate/resolution/visual effects on PS4.

            Even if Xbox had a far more powerful CPU and 10000GB of 10000 GB/s memory, it’s ability to render graphics is STILL limited by the weaker GPU. There’s no getting around the weaker GPU, there’s no free lunch.

            DDR3+ESRAM is still a size and bandwidth bottleneck and difficult to code for. The DMA registers help transfer data between DDR3 and ESRAM, they aren’t super special sauce.

            If they’re both running at the same resolution the Xbox version will have lower framerate and/or visual effects, or the PS4 hardware isn’t being pushed.

            Xbox has memory size and bandwidth bottlenecks, weak GPU and GPGPU, only 16 ROPs, and OS virtualization overhead that all degrade gaming performance. Take your pick.

          • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

            lol Derp is still defending a 7870M

            A proper 7870 is 2.56TF

            PC just wins again and destroys both toaster boxes

          • Guest

            You do realize that TO running at 1920×800 is still a higher res than Ryse running at 1600×900 right? do the math. Plus TO uses MSAA x4 which is alot more bandwidth heavy and superior than the SMAA 1TX (btw Infamous uses SMAA 2TX but runs at 1080p and 35+fps average). So to try and state the 800p resolution of TO like its some low unimpressive res, when its actually a higher res than Ryse’s. Says how you truly feel about Ryse’s res.

          • Guy Brohski

            You can say whatever you want, but 800 vertical pixels is what it is. I’d rather have the extra 40% screen real estate that the bars are hiding, but whatever floats your boat, captain.

          • chrisredfield31

            you’re an idiot. 1920×800 is not 800p. It’s in the land of 1080 and the only reason why it’s that way is b/c of the cinematic black bars.

          • Dylan Harris

            destroys? not even. Ryse is practically flawless. Great game, and the gameplay is very fun, if you like arkham’s battle system then its the same damned thing.

        • Somerandomperson

          Ryse had better skin textures and of course those came at the price of resolution and framerate dips.

          Don’t know how the two games would compare.

        • You are flat out wrong

          Top lel.

          • Guest

            Wow look at the bad textures lol

        • John

          ryse was shit and looked uncanny valley and just shitty as hell.

        • Guest

          BF4 X1 looks better than Ryse and thats a low res mess. Ryse got choppy/stiff animations, choppy framerate and prerendered cutscenes. Nothing impressive about it. But i guess when your system can only produce graphics as good as the X1 can then Ryse looks good to you.

          • Guy Brohski

            Wow, you’re jealous of Ryse. The game looks great, and you can’t stand it, eh?

          • ps4lol

            Infamous is technically superior to Ryse in every way. 1080p, 35 fps average (according to DF), open world, next gen visual effects, cutscenes are mostly realtime, etc.

            If you think a 900p, 25 fps average, QTE corridor brawler with copypasted barbarian enemies and CG movie cutscenes “looks better”, that’s your unfounded opinion.

            Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion

          • You_Are_Flat_Out_Peasant

            MGS V and COD Ghosts look like PS4 games
            FFXIV is not 60FPS on PS4. 60FPS is only exclusive to PC
            Tomb raider can barely hang onto 60FPS and runs better on PC anyway

            Derp once more caught lying and shilling

        • Hugo Stiglitz

          Are you on drugs? Ryse doesn’t even look better than trine 2 opn PS4, let alone Killzone, Infamous, or the Order

        • ps4lol

          Infamous is technically superior to Ryse in every way. 1080p, 35 fps average (according to DF), open world, next gen visual effects, cutscenes are mostly realtime, etc.

          If you think a 900p, 25 fps average, QTE corridor brawler with copypasted barbarian enemies and CG movie cutscenes “looks better”, that’s your unfounded opinion.

      • Lord Akki

        “Yep, it definitely is the best looking game so far”

        Fixed

        • MrSec84 .

          Nope I stand by what I wrote, no fixing necessary.

        • Amith Thomas

          Well, it looks amazing, but IMO you just can’t compare it to the best looking PC games out there. Remember that PC games like the Crysis series do everything realtime physics simulated in direct daylight with a map 10 times as big, with foliage, and it looks that amazing.

          Dark setting, indoor, small space, reflections etc… yes it may look a bit more real and cinematic, but still not very impressive – that comparison is simply unfair to say the least. At the end of the day, players are more impressed by the former.

          I don’t know, you might disagree, but if you actually played PC games maxed out you’d agree. Most people who make these arguments haven’t even played PC :P

          Just my opinion, but I have to say that console exclusives like these are going to be amazing no matter what. Anyway let’s just wait till Uncharted 4. That will blow people’s minds.

          • Sean Lumly

            In my opinion (for what it’s worth) this is the best looking game I have ever seen, for any platform, PC included. But I’m genuinely curious: which specific PC game looks better?

          • Dylan Harris

            crysis and lords of shadow 2 both look better then this.Ryse on xbox one looks the same, if not better then this also

          • Sean Lumly

            Those games are good looking, but to me they look like *games*. They have that fake plastic, game look. The Order looks like pre-rendered cut-scene CGI, and the aforementioned games could never be confused as being such.

          • Dave

            It is amazing how much graphical power they are squeezing out of the PS4 so early in this console generation. I am still amazed how pretty Infamous looks when you look around the Seattle open world. The Order’s in engine gameplay actually looks like pre-rendered cutscenes – phenomenal!

    • CaliforniaDreaming

      No. Until Gears of war 4 and Quantum Break are unveiled!

    • Guy Brohski

      Well it might be the best if it didn’t have Silent Hill levels of fog to mask the draw distance and black bars limiting the vertical res to 800p.

      • Prime157

        So might have Ryse had it not just been corridors and the same gameplay, over and over and over and over again.

        Difference is you haven’t tried, and probably won’t try the order.

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