The Order 1886: Retail In-Game vs. E3 2013 Target Render Comparison

The Order 1886 was originally unveiled at E3 2013 with a cinematic trailer that showed the main cast of characters traveling in a stagecoach and then getting attacked by what was presumed to be werewolves. This trailer was believed to be a pre-rendered cutscene but Ready at Dawn later clarified that it was all done in real-time on their game engine.

Now that the retail version is out, thanks to broken street date, we have an apparent comparison of similar scene from the E3 2013 reveal trailer. You can check it out below.

The change of outfit is due to story reasons but the final game does indeed have the original outfit, as can be seen in the image below.

order-outfit

Ready at Dawn’s CTO Andrea Pessino recently talked about the fake rumors floating around the web about its length and graphics. He stated that he was tired of replying to all these claims and won’t bother doing it anymore.

We have compared the various build of The Order 1886 released over the past year and found out that there is noticeable upgrade for the graphics in the final retail version.

Since there have been plenty of videos leaked of The Order 1886 so far, there has been a few leaks like an easter egg featuring a popular Sony mascot and some brutal melee action.

The Order 1886 will be officially released on the PlayStation 4 on February 20th, 2015.

Let us know what you think about this comparison in the comments below.

  • Ricky D

    yeah so, disregarding graphics and beauty, cos its kind of getting old now, wonder how well it plays. Games these days all look great and are marginal in terms of graphical comparisons, lets face it, the truth is that the people who really care how great things look are just the fanboys biases towards console/brand worship, what happened to when gameplay, game mechanics and longevity of a title was the order of the day. those are whats most important.

  • Josh Pavlov

    Upgrade? Upgrade? Where? Less detailed models and terrain. Most of shadows and lighting effects just gone thanks to the “Foggy” effect. To be honest, game looks terrible to me right now.

  • NathanGrit

    Comparing graphics from a YouTube stream seems totally legit. As is the fact the atmosphere of the scene has been changed entirely, leading people to say “the clothing downgraded, it looks gray etc”, completely oblivious to said clothing appearing in other parts of the game, and wonderful, vibrant locations in doors & outdoors

    • Ziggurcat

      that’s because trolls can’t see past what’s in front of their deluded faces, and look at things its proper context.

  • TJ

    A lot of butt hurt Sony trolls LOL

  • misterxmedia.lj.com

    Downgraded. Don’t call it target render. Alpha was real time too. Just on PC. They lied. As usual.

    • Ziggurcat

      not downgraded.

      and care to prove your idiotic claim, you piece of garbage? you do know that you’re a laughingstock, and even MS execs think you’re a fucking idiot.

      • misterxmedia.lj.com

        Fuck off you idiot. Stop follow me and lie about me on every corner. Bathurt is strong for you now.

        • Ziggurcat

          prove your bullshit claims or GTFO.

        • Ziggurcat

          awwww… does the laughingstock feel threatened by being asked to provide proof of your idiotic statements?

          put up or shut up. prove your claims.

          • The Herald Of GabeN

            Game was downgraded, sunshine. Probably should give up the fight defending a 5 hour 800P movie everyone laughed at on Youtube.

        • Ziggurcat

          that’s what i thought… you’ve got nothing to back up your stupidity.

          a loser is you.

        • Revolver Ocelot

          Ryse was shit, misterxmedia. Back you crawl to your LiveJournal ๐Ÿ™‚

          • The Herald Of GabeN

            And so was The Odor. Funny how that worked out, MisterPMedia.

          • Revolver Ocelot

            Wow, rscottyg. TEN DAYS AGO! Let me guess, taking a break from that 89th playthrough of Gone Home? :^)

          • The Herald Of GabeN

            Wow MisterPMedia. Still regretting buying The Odor even though all the
            warning signs were there. Better shill the POS4 more with that silky
            smooth 30FPS (With drops). Didn’t Cerny say it will be powered by GPGPU?
            What a hack, the POS4 needs a high tier GPU and not a low tier entry
            Laptop GPU. Hilarious.

            It’s hilarious that you were skulking over here and Dualshillers and didn’t show your face anywhere else to damage control.

            Funny that Gone Home would be the perfect game for you since your eyes can’t see past five hours :^)

        • Revolver Ocelot

          Remember how it was the dual GPU? Then the stereo driver (which you immediately dropped when the leak showed it was just a replacement for the previous driver)? Now your alter ego’s banging on about 100fps? You’re a laughing stock, misterxmedia. A delusional fanboy who can’t handle the Xbone being a joke. Keep pushing back those NDAs.

          • The Herald Of GabeN

            Sounds like your 8GB GDDR5 (4.5GB available for games)

            Oh my god. The two biggest peasant shills going at it. Why didn’t I find this earlier

    • You are flat out wrong

      King of downgrades remains Shitza 5, misterxliar. Crawl back to your Livejournal so you can lie to desperate Xbox fanboys about NDAs.

      • The Herald Of GabeN

        The king of downgrade damage control shows up in a thread showing the game is downgraded. Hilarious.

        Lets call you MisterPlaystationMedia since you are both deluded.

    • The Herald Of GabeN

      Downgraded yes. You are still a deluded console peasant though

    • Revolver Ocelot

      Gotta be funny watching you backtrack again, you malignant fanboy liar.

  • Jeff Pee

    I don’t think most gamers, scratch that, most people know what good lighting is. A lot of people mistake high contrast lighting as great “lighting” and subtle lighting as “washed out”. Real life isn’t always so bright and shiny. In all my years of working with photoshop, clients have always leaned toward the higher contrast and lost of detail in the middle range tones style of editing. I personally lean more toward the more stylized high contrast look, but I appreciate the more subtle life like look. As “powerful” as these modern game consoles and PCs are today, they still can’t achive that subtle “real-life” lighting correctly… Hell Hollywood can’t even get it right, how are we to expect these consoles and PCs to get it?

    There’s really no need to discuss whether or not there was a “downgrade”, seems to be the popular thing this generation tho. Most developers are easy to reach, they’re all on Twitter. RAD, especially, has been on twitter and in interviews saying that there was no downgrade. Would be pretty dumb of them to lie to everyone’s faces… they could be sued, that’s a distinct possibility these days.

    • SaberEdge

      Every developer always says there has been no downgrade, only upgrades. But downgrades do happen during development…at least in certain areas. It’s very common. This idea that every single element will be improved throughout development is simply not congruent with reality.

      • Jeff Pee

        Oh there is no doubt that downgrades happen, it’s just a matter of where its happening. Take away some background geometry, swap one lighting tech for another. It happens, but dev’s will choose an alternative that will yield the best results with minimal difference.

        And I still stick to my opinion that most people don’t know what good lighting is, I don’t even quite no myself.

    • Cinnamon267

      It is a problem with the audience. Flashy sells. Subtle often doesn’t. The best examples of lighting with these new systems have been the ones that focused on subtlety above all.
      Alien Isolation looks so good. The subtlety of everything makes sure of that. Nothing there is to “pop” at you, outside of the monster. A lot of the direct feed shots from the Order look so good because the lighting isn’t eye-f##king you.

      A lot of people don’t know what good textures are, either. It’s super high texel density or nothing.

  • corvusmd

    This game was CLEARLY downgraded in textures and lighting. It can be said that the facial animations are better, but even then it’s not a huge difference, but you can easily see the downgrades.

    • Ziggurcat

      no. it has not. go back to misterx.

      • corvusmd

        WHo is misterx?

        • Ziggurcat

          good one.

          you can’t honestly expect me to believe that you, being one of the biggest xbox trolls i’ve seen on the internet, doesn’t know who misterx is… wanna try again?

      • The Herald Of GabeN

        PC Gaming Master Race here. Your game was downgraded. Thanks for playing and expressing your buyers remorse :^)

  • Thiรชn Trแบงn

    too much fog, sony lied everyone about true quality of the game. the color look washed out. blur everywhere
    i like the picture look sharply and clearly.

    • Ziggurcat

      too much troll, misterx lied to everyone about the true quality of the game. the colour isn’t washed out, there’s no blur anywhere.

    • Jeff Pee

      Actually if it were true, what you should be saying is RAD lied. I don’t know if you know this but RAD is a 3rd party developed and isn’t owned by SONY.

  • waka

    Looks technically good as always (I don’t think it looks any better or worse now than before, just even less appealing due to the transparent grey blob covering the view and removing details seemingly in the retail version), but also looks like shit because it’s a boring grey-brown shooter that’s not even trying to look interesting or fun (a good reflection of the gameplay).

  • Ricoh123

    Lmfao.

    More Bullshots to trick everyone.

    HUUGE downgrades.

    • Ziggurcat

      more idiots to annoy everyone.

      HUUGE troll.

      • Ricoh123

        Not my fault the Sony hype train struck again.

        Just look at how much details is lost on the clothing alone.

        Truly shocking.

        This game now looks average at best. With black bars.

        Ps4 isn’t very powerful whatsoever.

        • Ziggurcat

          “Just look at how much details is lost on the clothing alone.”

          nnnnope:

          “The change of outfit is due to story reasons but the final game does indeed have the original outfit, as can be seen in the image below.”

          seems that someone hasn’t actually read the article…

          • Ricoh123

            Dddddaaaaammmmaaaagggeee control !

            The clothing is nowhere near as detailed because the ps4 isn’t powerful enough to hit the target renders.

            Same reason the fog and huge black bars also exist.

            I guess you will then go on to blame MS parity clause for this massive downgrade ahaha.

            The target renders are nothing more than yet more great bullshot examples.

            These bull shots are closing on on Ubisofts epic bull shots.

          • Ziggurcat

            *sigh*

            right… damage control…. with facts. that clothing is still in the game, you retard.

            you’re really bad at trolling.

          • And your blind haha

            The clothing has had a huge downgrade.

          • Ziggurcat

            uh huh… right… clothing… the same clothing that is still in the game… has been downgraded…

            awful trolling. try harder.

          • Oh my……

            I guess the next thing you’re going to say is that there is no fog in the game to hide shorter draw distances.

            I’ve seen some delerious people in my time but you take the biscuit.

            Man to man chat here –

            Can you honestly not see where the clothing has been downgraded?

          • Ziggurcat

            you have no idea what draw distance is, do you…

            i’ve seen some bad trolls in my time, and you’re one of the worst as far as the effort you’re putting into being a troll. it’s a shame, really… that you would suck so bad at something that’s really easy to do.

            and what part of “the uniforms shown in the old build are still in the game” do you not understand, you retard? you can’t call something that hasn’t been removed from the game “downgraded”, especially when, in the case shown above, it’s just a change in uniform that’s contextual to that part of the story. but you wouldn’t know, would you… because you won’t play this game, let alone own a PS4.

          • D E L E R I O U S

            haha

            You probably believe that 95 Sony fanboy score this game received.

            The World laughs at your kind. How has your gene pool later this long !!

  • Spencer

    I guess I’m the only person here with a brain that realizes the game’s graphics have actually been upgraded, and not downgraded, but hey who am I to stop you blind masses from being stupid.

    • jznlv

      Just xbots , trying to support their god. They dont have to buy it or play it, but they sure are spending a lot of time and attention on a game they will never play. The funny thing is, all of their hate makes people who actually can play it more interested to see what the truth is and see what it is like for themselves, so they are actually helping sell the game.

      • The Herald Of GabeN

        PC Master Race here. We have descended from the light of GabeN (Praise be upon him) to bestow upon you the fact your game is garbage and wouldn’t even pass Greenlight. Please proceed past the buyers remorse from your 5 hour game and trade in your PS4 so we can show you the light of 60FPS and 1080P, always

    • Ricoh123

      Everyone else’s brains are telling them you are delirious.

      • Spencer

        Doesn’t surprise me given how stupid the majority of the country is

        • Megaman

          You do no you fall on to that list right???lol *know

          • Guest

            And you do know that you do to right? I mean seriously you like an inferior product. That’s pretty stupid.

          • Megaman

            Loooool great comeback geek

      • Guest

        And yet you knowingly support and fight for a system (the X1) which has a ton of inferior multiplats, when everyone else’s brains are telling you that you are delirious.

    • Megaman

      BRUH

      • Guest

        BRA

        • Megaman

          Lol Bra???I’m guessing you don’t follow social media

    • The Herald Of GabeN

      No everyone’s brain is fine but you are going through a condition called “Buyers Remorse” because you paid $400 for an APU tardstation :^)

  • ะ˜ะฒะฐะฝ ะœะพั€ะดะพั€

    Too much blur in final version and also problems with colors

    • tplarkin7

      The odd thing is, muted color was a common problem with PS3. (PS2 was also known to be blurry, to mask aliasing issues).

  • chris

    thats a downgrade , not sure where you see a upgrade, look closer, downgraded, all qte , tons of cutscenes, little gameplay

    • corvusmd

      Not only is it a downgrade, it’s EASILY the biggest one we have seen this gen, and this is all for a game that is 30fps and 800p w/ black bars. The defense force is so strong because this whole gen PS fanboys have been putting their whole stake in the numbers…and now they are all against them. It’s a shame that despite it being downgraded they can’t acknowledge it’s still a great looking game.

      • D’quavius Griffin

        Desire having a display ratio of 1920 X 800, the game keeps the pixel density of an image rendered at 1920 X 1080.

        • corvusmd

          I get that, but with the black bars at the edge, that means the system doesn’t have to work as hard to render those areas, so either way it’s a shortcut to save processing.

  • tplarkin7

    I don’t understand why the retail version looks foggy.

    • PSIN4MANT

      Cause there is fog?

      • SaberEdge

        Persistent fog everywhere? Even in a closed stagecoach? I’m sorry, that’s not how things look.

        Even the previous builds had lots of fog. Now it’s just everywhere, at all times, and just makes everything look washed out.

        • Spencer

          It’s not in the stage coach. The dense fog outside causes a darkened, diffused light inside the stage coach, especially because there’s no interior lighting in 1886. That’s how it would really look. I’m sorry that their commitment to realistic lighting bothers you, but that’s a fact.

          • Jamie Lawler

            You are either an expert on interior lighting in 19th century stagecoaches,or just another defensive Sony fanboy out doing his/her daily duty.
            Guess which one I’m leaning towards?

          • Spencer

            You’ve either never been inside of a cockpit of anything while it was foggy or raining outside or you’re a fucking idiot. Guess which one I’m leaning towards?

          • SaberEdge

            Well, I have. I lived for a long time in the Pacific Northwest of the US…Portland…Seattle…so I know about fog and rain, believe me. I’ve never been inside a car while it is rainy or foggy outside and had it look foggy or washed out inside.

            That said, I’m not saying the game looks bad. Some aspects of it just don’t look realistic, despite the protestations of some of you.

          • Spencer

            It doesn’t look foggy or washed out. It looks dark, and dreary, because it is. Any “washed out” effect is due to the screens being compressed, and not direct feed

          • Guest

            The idiot is calling someone else an idiot. How ironic. A hateful, mad and very angry MS fanboy doing his/her daily duty.

          • Ricky D

            common sense dictates they didnt really have lights on hand at that time. but again common sense also dictates the arsenal of weaponry they have didnt exist either….

        • Guest

          You automatically hate the game cuz its A Sony exclusive and will find any little petty bullsh*t to hate on it. And yet it still looks way better graphically than anything on the X1. But I bet you you don’t hate anything on that. F-ing fanboys. such a phony and obvious bunch.

        • Guest

          Who cares? The game still looks great and has better graphics than any other game out there. And its obviously just a design choice rather than a limitation. And these poor shots are not representive of how it will look on your tv. Which will look sharp and beautiful.

    • Jason Mounce

      Historians presume the Victorian days were a foggy mess, especially London. Which is why characters like Jack the Ripper could get away with crimes so easily. All he had to do was stab a bitch then walk 5 feet in any direction into the fog and become invisible.

      • Cerny’s tiny cock

        Wrong. The fog is also visible in indoor scenes, not just outdoors. Look at the brothel vid for example, inside rooms are foggy too. It’s just a lame simulation to hide ps4 limitations.

        • Jason Mounce

          Way to take a satirical joke seriously – and to try to twist it to fit your fanboy agenda.

          • Cerny’s tiny cock

            Yea the game itself is a joke seriously.

          • Jason Mounce

            What’s your preference/list/outlook on what’s a good game?

          • d0x360

            One that isn’t boring?

          • Jason Mounce

            Name some examples. This isn’t a hard question for you or Cerny.

          • d0x360

            Some examples of games that aren’t boring? Ok… Last of us, dark souls, halo, forza, Mario kart, ocarina of time, quake 2, quake 3, resident evil, dying light, portal, grim fandango…marble madness, Mario 64, banjoe kazooie, conker, star fox, pikman, metal gear solid, silent hill, Kotor, red dead redemption, wipeout…, skitchen, road rash

            Does that help?

          • Jason Mounce

            That’s a shocking list, you simply trying to comprise a list to make me not skeptical of any of your biases? ๐Ÿ˜› So, what makes The Order 1886 boring, but not The Last of Us? How far have you played in both of those titles?

          • d0x360

            My biases? Do tell me what my biases are. My psn username is the same as this one. Enjoy yourself.

            Someone isn’t allowed to think a game looks awful without being biased? The order looks gorgeous.. And that’s it. The gameplay is as derivative and boring as can be for a game with this much hype. Basic cover shooter plus qte..nope, no thanks. All ive played is the press demo which is generally the best the game has to offer in the most polished state they have. Its not for me.

            You may like it and that’s fine. Doesn’t mean everyone has to like it.
            You gotta learn how to handle negative feedback without going over the edge and insulting people. Its sad and it makes you look incredibly childish.

          • Jason Mounce

            Open-thinking is all. I don’t remember any of your older posts and it’s not like I could refresh myself if such a thing is true since your comment history is private and my memory can be bad with remembering individuals ๐Ÿ˜› Though, having a PSN username doesn’t mean someone can’t have a bias against Sony or etc. Beyond the point though.

            Please point to me where I ‘went over the edge’ and begun to ‘insult you’ wherein I apparently became ‘incredibly childish’. I think you’re the only one going over the edge and getting mighty defensive when all I did was request that you give some examples of games that aren’t ‘boring’ and then I asked how The Order 1886 is boring but The Last of Us is not when they’re essentially one in the same of quality but of different story and narrative. Which you hadn’t answered. I’m speaking quite calmly to you and you’re getting hostile, I had even +1’d your comment to which you made your little list. Seems to not mean much to you since you’re acting like I’m pushing you in a corner.

          • d0x360

            You sir are hilarious. If you think your sudden calm post makes you the good guy friendly person you are deluded.

            When you accuse people of being biased when it comes to games you are calling them a fanboy. Plain and simple.

            You dont know me nor can you assume anything based on my opinion of a single game. As for owning every Sony console ever made and being biased? BUSTED! I bought a ps4 just so I could trash on it cause I bleed cash and sneeze coins.

            Last of us and the order are the same game huh. That’s interesting. The last of us also had fairly simple gameplay BUT it also had an absolutely amazing story and setting. Something this game doesn’t have. The order is B movie schlock which is fine there is a place for all levels of entertainment. The problem is the order doesn’t have the gameplay chops to carry it or the story expertise to guide it.

            If this game didn’t look as good as it does nobody would care about it. Nobody. Remove the pretty visuals and what do you have? Not much. Like I said before if that’s enough for you then great I truly hope you enjoy it but its not enough for me.

            Wanna know something funny? Despite already knowing I won’t enjoy it very much I’ll still buy it day 1. Why? I buy just about every major release on every currently supported console. why? Cause I love games and am willing to give almost anything a fair shot. How’s that for biased?

          • Jason Mounce

            But I ‘am’ being friendly, simply inquiring some things here and there to reinforce your beliefs and the reasoning behind your said-opinions. I have no idea why you need to say I’m being deluded for simply asking questions, your hostility doesn’t seem to hold much water when it’s quite visible that I’ve done nothing wrong.

            My comment relating to biases is phrased as a Question, not a declaration. ๐Ÿ™‚ Thus, I’m not stating that you have biases, but asking if the list you made, which had shocked me and my initial expectations of you – was made for reactionary reasons rather than a genuine list of your actual beliefs.

            Much exaggerations.

            So you’ve played a press build and you Know the story of the game that hasn’t released yet? Albeit, maybe you spoiled yourself by watching a full playthrough – that’d surely impact how someone feels about a game when they didn’t play and immerse themselves in the game itself in contrast to your said experiences that you personally had with such games like The Last of Us, which also was a game that was immersive. I’m merely of course from here, inquiring how you can judge The Orders’ story, a game of which has not been released yet so confidently, simply ๐Ÿ™‚

            That’s very nice of you of course ๐Ÿ™‚ I was debating on getting it day 1 too – but being in Bagged Milk Land, our dollar is worth less and games may as well instead cost $80, and I rather not pay that and wait til it’s on sale or $30, or get it digitally on PSN on a future sale.

          • d0x360

            Its difficult to take your friendliness seriously after you were called out. You were on a different path and when i wasn’t suckered into a stupid fanboy fight you changed course.

            On one hand I appreciate that but on the other…I know where you wanted it to go originally. You can use semantics to insinuate you were really saying something else all day but we both know that isn’t the case so we should agree to disagree when it comes to The Order and just move along. I won’t change your mind about the game and you won’t change mine.

          • Jason Mounce

            I’ve not changed anything ๐Ÿ˜›

            You presume too much, wherein you stated: “You dont know me nor can you assume anything based on my opinion—” – I can also do/say the same, since you seem very sure of yourself and your perception of ‘what was going on’.

            I don’t recall ever having such agendas either way, what would I gain by trying to ‘persuade’ others? About what? Asking someone why they find a game boring vs another that I referred to being very much the same or similar enough in my mind? Merely poking to see if there’s a contradiction or not. No harm done of course. ๐Ÿ˜›

          • d0x360

            Believe whatever makes you feel better. Take care.

          • Jason Mounce

            I normally prefer to believe what aligns closest to logic or what feels like it’s the truth ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

          • olbaiD4283

            Why do you have your profile private? Hiding anything?

          • Dirkster_Dude

            So when you said the game “looks awful” you didn’t mean the graphics just everything else?

          • Guest

            You sir are hilarious. Wow, talk about sensitive and defensive. definitely lashing out at him like a angry offended fanboy. You actually think you’re above any of this when in reality you are knee deep in it. You’re a fanboy sir. And the sooner you see this the sooner you can fix your problem. Denial is not good. I have bought every MS system, (the Xbox, 360 and the One), but yet cant stand MS fanboys. For they are the most obnoxious, hateful, deluded, vile, deceitful of all the fanboys.

          • d0x360

            K ty.

          • Guest

            Welcome ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Guest

            Oh please you’re a known fanboy. We know you prefer MS. Who you think you fooling? Yourself?

          • Nestor Toy

            WTF? You already played the game!? Jealous!

          • Guest

            “Last of us, dark souls, halo, forza, Mario kart, ocarina of time, quake 2, quake 3, resident evil, dying light, portal, grim fandango…marble madness, Mario 64, banjoe kazooie, conker, star fox, pikman, metal gear solid, silent hill, Kotor, red dead redemption, wipeout…, skitchen, road rash”
            All garbage, generic a$$ Halo? Or boring a$$ Forza? The kiddie crap MK, with its super rubberband AI? Quake is old and played out as is the over abused RE, Portal is overhyped depressing garbage with sh*tty gfx. Grim Fandango and Marble Madness? Yuck! Mario64 and BK all blurry repetitive messes. MGS is way overrated, as is Zelda. Yuck RDR, Wipeout is played out also. OU is just ok at best but also overhyped. And the list goes on. Some of the worst games of today are ALOT better than most of the crap you have on your list.

          • Bilal Prince- Ali

            and you know this games boring how..?

          • d0x360

            Briefly. There is nothing wrong with the game. What’s there works and feels for the most part solid. Its going to be a divisive title, more than most but it will have its fans.

          • Bilal Prince- Ali

            hell yeah of course, likes most things, but when people call games boring without having played the thing it just doesn’t make sense.. because i know a few people that GENUINELY thought The Last Of Us was a boring game.

          • d0x360

            I have played it but you dont need to play a game to see that its boring from videos and descriptions. You can make an educated guess

          • Bilal Prince- Ali

            True true, but its more of a ‘Each to their own’ type affair, because i played it on the 9th of February at a ‘Game Lock-In’ at my locak GAME store, and i thought it was exactly what id expect just in a WAY better presentation than i anticipated, PLUS once again each to their own type affair considering i A lot of people shy away from playing RPG’s because they look boring, same with RTS, MOBA, MMO’s, so really its more about what you like than just the game itself, to say its boring is to quesiton how action packed the game will be and from what we DO know is theres PLENTY of action in this game, so yeah

          • d0x360

            That’s great, I mean that. I’m glad you enjoy it and I hope lots of other people do to. There are likely lots of games I don’t like that othersike yourself do and vice versa.

            The reason I posted in the first place was in a (vain) attempt to point out that very fact. Not every game is for every one and to call them bias for stating that opinion is absurd.

          • Ricky D

            unless you played the multiplayer. thinking mans shooter.

          • Guest

            Weak response, like? I bet you its bullsh*t.

          • d0x360

            A statement of opinion can’t be bullshit lol

          • Guest

            Oh yes it can

          • d0x360

            Dem the facts? How’s your apartment looking h these days? Still filthy? Still got all those stalker photos of Sony execs on your windows? Still sending people nasty messages over psn?

          • Guest

            No I got stalker photos of MS execs. And my apt is cleaner than your filthy room. And PSN? I don’t got that crap.

          • d0x360

            I bet it is

          • Guest

            He sweats anything that is a MS exclusive. He thinks Ryse, DR3, TF, etc are the sh*t. He’s a hateful jealous fanboy, but I know you already know this.

        • Bilal Prince- Ali

          yet this looks better than anything on xbox :S? soooo….?

          • Dirkster_Dude

            Maybe it is because Cerny has a tiny cock and he is compensating for something? ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Bilal Prince- Ali

            and that’d hold relevance to this convo or general topic how…? :S

          • Guest

            Another incredibly immature, hateful and vile MS fanboy. That describes the whole lot of them.

        • Guest

          Wow, you’re definitely a immature little loser. And the saddest thing is that you’re probably old.

    • SaberEdge

      I know. It looks worse to me.

      • Guest

        Just like Ryse and Forza 5 looked worst, along with TF and DR3 and KI were all downgraded to 720p with sh*tty framerates.

    • kreator

      It’s called, Sony hype!

      • Guest

        And your comment is called “fanboyism”, a heavy dose of it. With a sh*t ton of hatefulness and jellyness. Im glad this game brings you such disdain. Cuz I know you’re hurting.

        • kreator

          Not as much as ya girl be hurting after I pull out of her ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • corvusmd

      It’s called smoke and mirrors

      • tplarkin7

        Sony is quite good at that. Perhaps they should be magicians?

        • Guest

          And yet their system is still way better than MS’s. 900p with worst framerates Evolve anyone? And MS is much better at feeding you bullsh*t, like the cloud, ESRAM, RAM, dGPU, Tiled Resources (which im still waiting on) and now the new hype creator, DX12. MS should be politicians.

      • Guest

        Your response is called fanboyism, “smoke and mirrors” like, Ryse, Forza 5, TF, DR3 and KI? Or the special sauces for the X1, like DX12 or the Cloud, or eSRAM? All smoke and mirrors. But you let all those slide.

        • corvusmd

          None of those are smoke and mirrors though. MS has been very upfront about all of them.

    • Bilal Prince- Ali

      its just to build atmosphere… and it would have been smog rather than fog.

    • Guest

      It looks foggy so that you can come in here and ask the question, than along with every other fanboy can claim a downgrade. Instead of releasing that it could just be a choice they made, cuz for whatever reason they thought it would be better.
      Another thing that fanboys need to realize is that, while a lot of times Sony systems look more washed out or blurrier in screenshots in comparison to MS systems. It does not look like that on your TV. But I digress, as I know that fanboys wont listen to the truth, the facts and instead continue on with their hateful agenda.

  • Cenk Algu

    Definitive downgrade!

    • Ziggurcat

      Definitive troll!

      • Cenk Algu

        definitive desperate!

        • Ziggurcat

          … says the person rearing his ugly head in every article about the order, desperately trying to downplay the game…. go back to misterx’s delusioblog.

          • Cenk Algu

            Not trying to downplay the game.I am telling the obvious truth about the visual fidelity of the game which can be easily seen by normal people but you.Not asking you where I should go;)

          • Ziggurcat

            “not trying to downplay the game…”

            bahahahahahahahaha good one. you are.

            now go back to misterx. maybe he’ll give you a pat on the back for trying to spread is brand of FUD, lies, and misinformation

          • Cenk Algu

            Hahaha butt hurtt “stop sending PC shots” desperate thinking that PC version is mile away than XO version while there is no visible differences between them.Butt hurt is big with you:)

          • Ziggurcat

            … because you don’t compare the PC version of a game to a console version of a completely different game.

            there are very clear visible difference between the PC, and xbone versions. you are horribly mistaken if you think that the PC version is the exact same as the xbone version. even the difference between xbone to the low PC setting is quite noticeable.

          • Cenk Algu

            Lol.lol at you I told you keep lying yourself. XO versions not under PC maxed settings unless minimal differences. I saw it with my own eyes no need any ones opinion and if Ryse is low then 1886 is extreme low when you compare it to Ryse. I sent you pc maxed out vs XO and even commnets saying there is no visible differences ohhh wait I am talking to a die hard blind fan whose hallucinating realy hard:)

          • Ziggurcat

            the differences are clearly visible in the screenshot i’ve posted above.

            PC versions will always be better than their console counterparts. always. to deny or even claim that a console version of a game is the same as a PC version really shows how deluded you really are. the evidence is there, it’s right above your last comment. it’s not an opinion, it’s fact.

          • The Herald Of GabeN

            Except when you defend your APU tardbox, kiddo then suddenly it “Doesn’t matter”. Right?

            Glad to know you recognise the superiority of the PC Master Race

          • Ziggurcat

            here – i’ve even added a different comparison. you can clearly see that the PC version is a nicer image.

            so, again… you can’t use PC screenshots or videos to represent the console version because there is a *difference* in the IQ.

          • Cenk Algu

            What kind of difference do you see here? Just be honest.XO has the same visual fidelity but at 900p while the PC version can climb up to 4k and that’s the only difference between pc maxed out settings and XO unless if you can turn on SSAA which you need a monster to do it.Just grow up kid.I am not saying XO version better than PC version I am not that stupid.PC version is a better version wtih minimal differences like higher resolution (I mean at 1080p).Stop to send somethings I never claimed about.

          • Ziggurcat

            it’s not the same visual fidelity if it’s 900p. and the difference between the two is obviously in the clarity. which is why you can’t just use PC screenshots/videos in any argument against a console game. it’s deceptive, and desperate. you compare console to console, not PC to console.

            i doubt very much that you would be okay with anyone using the PC version of any game that happened to also be on PS4, and referring to it as the PS4 version in a comparison against a different game on xbone.

            “I am not saying XO version better than PC version I am not that stupid.”

            another lie. you’ve said, repeatedly, that there are “no visible differences.” you’re implying that they are equal, which they are clearly not. and now you’re saying that PC version is obviously better? make up your mind. i know it can be hard to keep track of the things you say when you’re trolling, but you’ve been caught so many times contradicting yourself, it’s not even funny.

            bottom line: The Order is a much better-looking game than Ryse, and completely dethrones Ryse as the best-looking game *on console*.

          • Cenk Algu

            No Ryse is the best looking game and confirmed its reputation with two rewards and your not liking it wont change anything.End of the stroy Ryse Son of Rome is still the best looking game on XO and it is so for a normal person whose not a delusional fanboy.I clealrly see you have some disabilities in your little brain.

        • Guest

          “definitely desperate”, yes you are, stop trying to desperately put down this game. It still looks WAY better than anything on the X1.

    • Guest

      Definite Stupidity. Btw, Ryse, Forza 5, FH2, DR3, TF, Evolve, ACU, Witcher 3, the Division and KI, etc. were definite downgrades.

  • GRIBBLEGRUNGER

    Lighting and Mustaches are sexier in target render or alpha build.

    • Richard Terry Clark

      lol…”legal action?”…good luck with that.

    • Ziggurcat

      i see fake gribblegrunger is at it again…

      • The Herald Of GabeN

        And is still better than the original since the original is a sony astroturfer while fake one spews fact. Like a chinese bootleg of the original that manages to be better, somehow.

    • Jeff Pee

      Wasn’t this game made by Ready At Dawn? Weren’t they the one’s out there saying that there was no downgrade and stuff?