See How Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Compares To PC Version At Ultra

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Tomb Raider is getting a sort of a upgrade, re-release on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. While Crystal Dynamics claims to have upgraded the graphics along with some character models, it remains to be seen how true their claims really are, especially with respect to the already graphically superior PC release. One thing is for sure, Lara Croft has definitely gotten a re-touch, but is it really good or bad?

On the official FAQ, Crystal Dynamics has described the upgrades to the definitive edition as follow:

· An all-new Lara model created to take advantage of the power of next-gen consoles.

· Gear on Lara (necklace, climbing axe, radio, arrows) now have realistic physics.

· Lara’s head has been retopologized and increased in resolution for a higher fidelity appearance. Her head was rebuilt from scratch with an estimated 5x density improvement on features for eyes, nose, mouth, cheeks, etc. All of her textures are higher resolution as well. We’ve also smoothed over edges on elbows, shoulders, and legs to give more natural features.

· Shaders and lighting have been reworked to showcase the raw physicality of Lara’s journey through sweat, mud, and blood materials and effects.

· The world has been dynamically brought to life using complex physical world simulation on trees, foliage, cloth. Additional enhancements have also been made to weather and lighting.

· All textures have been created at 4x resolution for maximum fidelity and detail.

· In-game characters, enemies, and destructibility have been enhanced for added realism.

· Subsurface scattering technology has been implemented to capture the most physically accurate lighting simulation and deliver a great sense of believability on Lara.

· Native 1080p gameplay gives outstanding visual fidelity and showcases the deadly beauty of Yamatai.

The Definitive Edition got a official trailer at VGX, which showed the game running on next generation consoles. It highlighted the details of the the next generation version. While at first sight, the difference might seem minimal but a side by side comparison reveals that new lighting and textures add a whole lot of detail to the in-game world.

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Definitive Edition

PC Version on Ultra

In case you are still not convinced of the changes, here is another shot of the PC version compared to the official shot of Definitive Edition(Courtesy of NeoGAF).

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PC at Top, Definitive Edition at Bottom

Tomb Raider Definitive Edition is scheduled to be released on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One on 28th January, 2014.

What do you think of the difference between PC and Definitive Edition? Let us know in the comments below.

Stay tuned to GearNuke for latest news and info on Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition.

Khurram Imtiaz

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  • Amer Al-Hiyasat

    If you have the PC or last gen version, don’t buy the definitive edition for your new console. If you haven’t played it before, like me, and you have a new console, then get the DE.
    It’s that simple.

  • Camille Molano

    PC sucks – X1 definitive version (as ALWAYS). PC elitists crying in a corner. X1 DOMINATION.
    - Y2JArmyofficial (youtube)

  • dakky

    Lol too bad the pc version looks better

    even with the “Definitive Edition” changes, the next gen consoles version fail to trump the PC version”

    this is what Digital Foundary says

    “A direct comparison with the PC version set to the ultimate quality preset reveals some large discrepancies between the Definitive Editions compared with the full-fat PC experience. Aspects such as tessellation are missing on the characters and environments, with some of these elements appearing more blocky on the PS4 and Xbox One as a result. Meanwhile, motion blur is used much more sparingly, while texture resolution is noticeably lower in some cases.”

    “Running with the ultimate preset enabled and the original TressFX in action, it’s clear that the Definitive Edition delivers an upgrade in select areas, but fails to trump the PC game in all respects. Certainly, when it comes to running at 1080p60 – or with even higher resolutions and frame-rate – no other platform can truly offer a PC-beating experience.”"

  • bloodrocuted88

    Please pardon any spelling mistakes or grammatical errors.
    Although Laura definitely has more polygons in the definitive addition, the PC and definitive screenshots just do not match up. in the second PC screen shot, she is drenched in blood and the definitive addition does not. PC aside, Laura may look nicer while she is running in the definitive addition but her face is just lacking the emotion that the regular edition had. Laura’s face and especially her eyes in the regular edition felt more real and ironically looked better because of it. the new Laura lacks the emotion of the original and just looks fake.

  • Mr Hell

    LOL texture pack without antialiasing for 60 bucks, and with that graphics run in 20 fps? LOL consoles are just losing their way… Console gamers think that only a texture pack makes it look better? do you have TressFX? Anti-Aliasing? Better Shadows? graphics aren’t only textures console gamers, deal with it, youre wasting 50 bucks for a fucking texture pack!

  • Joe

    It’s called SweetFX modding. Make your games look how you want them to look while massively improving textures, lighting, etc… I am fairly new to PC gaming and have always played consoles but SweetFX changed my mind about PC gaming. It is superior! my PC build was cheap. I only have a decent graphics card (GTX 670) and a medium level PC (Quad Core 3.0 Ghz w/ 8gb RAM) and the games look far superior to most next gen console games even without using SweetFX. I play in my living room relaxing with an xbox 360 controller @ 1080p resolution just like a console experience and could not be happier. Not to mention playing at 1440p resolution on my 27″ monitor when I really want the graphics to blow me away!

  • borge777

    NO DOUBT , PC IS FARE SUPERIOR, THAT’S ALL IVE GOT TO SAY

  • Rivenoir

    Jeez why is everyone so annoyed. Personally, I think that they’ll eventually release the PC version at a lower price point. At the same time, it’s not that hard to acknowledge that the PS4 will beat low-end PCs, while the higher end would run better.

    Point is, we’re all gamers, you know?

  • john croft

    i hope the pc version will get an update of some sort, even if its just her new face id be happy, but iv got a feeling pc version wont get any update, iv heard that there will be a tomb raider goty for the pc though so maybe that will have the updates

  • Matt

    What about the Crysis Wiki?

  • Dakan45

    personally i play for mods, better and customizable controls and more freedom, also free mp.

  • Kurt Kuppens

    well yeah it is going to look somewhat better if the game was made for ps4 in the first place think of what the one for pc would look like then :P all this shows is how ps3 and 360 hold back pc gfx

  • Turbomite

    Horrible Horrible comparison FACEPALM

  • Razma

    the reason why the PC version looks worse is due to the PC version being hindered by last gen consoles and them being too lazy (greedy) to release a patch to add in the additions they made to this new version. If they had a PC definitive version it would look better too.

    This comparison is like releasing Mass Effect 2 on a Console and saying that it looks better than Mass Effect 1 on PC. Of course it does

    • dakky

      even with the “Definitive Edition” changes, the next gen consoles version fail to trump the PC version”

      this is what Digital Foundary says

      “A direct comparison with the PC version set to the ultimate quality preset reveals some large discrepancies between the Definitive Editions compared with the full-fat PC experience. Aspects such as tessellation are missing on the characters and environments, with some of these elements appearing more blocky on the PS4 and Xbox One as a result. Meanwhile, motion blur is used much more sparingly, while texture resolution is noticeably lower in some cases.”

      “Running with the ultimate preset enabled and the original TressFX in action, it’s clear that the Definitive Edition delivers an upgrade in select areas, but fails to trump the PC game in all respects. Certainly, when it comes to running at 1080p60 – or with even higher resolutions and frame-rate – no other platform can truly offer a PC-beating experience.”"

  • sage

    i hope they fix the bows so you can keep the old version without automatically upgrading from picking up ammo, and I hope they fix the difficulty so it’s more challenging.
    I’m glad the graphics are noticeably different, though the mud effect in the gif on her arms looks a bit dated, the way it just appears when she barely touched the ground.

  • GeorgeAlbanis

    Why the blood removal?

  • Dakan45

    “All textures have been created at 4x resolution for maximum fidelity and detail.”

    They dont look like it, they are the same as the pc version.

    ” Native 1080p gameplay gives outstanding visual fidelity and showcases the deadly beauty of Yamatai.”

    HAAHHAH they are comparing it with the console version you tools not the pc version.

    Ps dont like lara’s new face, the lighting looks about the same and why isnt blood on lara’s face on the DE version?

  • Hydr0x

    Would just like to enlighten you all about Tessellation. This is where textures are given a super “bump map” and turned into actual meshes, this adds better depth and in turn you get more shadows and a better lighting system.

    This is available to those of us playing on PC, it makes everything look amazing without a new texture pack (you just need to enable it, and not on the in-game settings its in your graphics card settings)

    Then we come to the PS4, which is a high/mid range pc in a box and it has DX11. But as its early days there are no games that support tessellation because it requires more graphical rendering and the PS4 cannot do that just yet. Also it requires one hell of a lot of programming and with Sony drip feeding its developers the devkits and code its just not going to happen for atleast another year.

    So this is why you get a texture pack, its compensating for a feature that you cannot use yet.

    Sources: I work at Codemasters as a Games Developer. I have a PS4 dev kit.

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Wow. NOW I see how big a difference Tessellation actually makes, as it wasn’t entirely apparent in AC III. So is that pic from a game you’re working on or just a sample that you made yourself for the sake of comparison? Too bad I don’t have DX 11 :(

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Do PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U support Tessellation to the degree of a mid range or high or ultra PC?

    • XXX

      Got proof to back up your claims? anyone can claim to be anyone on the net.

  • LarZen

    I enjoyed this on PC at max setting…it looked so damn nice. But I am going back to that island when it comes to the PS4. Firstly because I just loved the game, secondly because I want to see how it is on the PS4 and third because I want to support the developers so that we get a sequel.

  • Sean

    Surprisingly from what I have read on here,I have yet to come across what I figured was pretty self explanatory. The DE does appear to look “better” subjective opinion etc. point I want to make is this : The devs. re-worked this DE for ‘Next Gen’ consoles.The orig. was on 360/ps3 then ported to PC.

    Although PC was the best version as far as visual fidelity goes. IF, they were to do the same make over/additional improvements for the PC version,IMO,Pc would still be the “best: version graphically. no one has yet to even play the DE,so,time will tell.

    TL;DR – Simply put,devs making DE are not held back by current gen systems like the 360/ps3 = A better overall looking game. This wouldn’t even be a dispute if ALL 3 ,xbox one,ps4 and PC were getting the same DE.

    • Dakan45

      Crystal dyanmics did not make the pc version, nixxes did.

      I agree, it is subjective, not clear diffirencem lara’s face for example is worse and there is no bloood on her face. They comparing it about the console version not the pc version.

      This is a cash grab if you have played it, any version, dont re buy it.

      • Sean

        Thanks for the info. I was not aware Nixxes did the PC port.

        I was more or less responding to the majority of console posters saying it was better looking than the PC version.

        My main point was The only reason it looks better than the PC version is because the developers creating the definitive Edition are no longer held back by current gen specs/limitations and not because xbox/ps4 is superior to PC. The PC version, if given the same updates would look even better than the ‘next gen’ console DE version.

        Better being subjective in this instance. For one,not so sure about the face change. It is as if they are erasing their original vision of what Lara looked like. Since all recent TR versions were great visually regardless of platform,i would think they achieved what they intended design wise.

        Now future iterations I imagine will resemble this “new and refined definitive version” of Lara. Makes you wonder why they would maim their original vision. well,least one way of putting it.

        either way,unless you haven’t played it yet,I’d pass this DE version. blatant cash grab.

        • Dakan45

          considering how they say “its 1080p” like its som kinda achievement, seems to me the big diffirence is compared to console version not the pc version.

          I am not defending the pc version, but the diffirencies are laughable. If you play Legend with next gen graphics on an off there is a bigger diffirence, same goes if you compare blackflag to ps3 and ps4 but here the diffirence is subjective not actual improvments.

          I still laugh at the idiots saying “oh you can definetly see the diffirence in 720p here” at a cod ghosts comparison article in ign. Later ign apologized because the comparison was made prior the update so both versions run at 720p. Seems to me consoletards pretend they can actuall tell the diffirence between graphics.

  • Araxis

    They didn’t make anything better, they just changed stuff.

  • Kirk Martin

    Ok so this was written on a pc, so whens the better version coming out for pc…

    • bigevilworldwide

      Oh but you don’t need this edition because you and all the other PC mental midgets are going to argue that the DE still looks like crap compared to the PC version or some other BS like it’s probably only running at 1080p and not 2000000000504050505050p because you wasted 6 months of your MCdonalds paycheck on the super uber-edition monitor. So the PC douchebags shouldn’t want it…..

      You know people wouldn’t hate the PC douchebags so much IF you and or they actually managed to figure out that NOBODY but you cares about your PC set-up, No console gamer is impressed or jelly because you spent $2000 on a PC or a video card. Yet in they feel the need to come to every article about anything to fap on about their PC thinking anyone actually cares

      • Vishant Verma

        lol.
        anyways.DE looks better.quite noticeable.

      • Azzanation

        You do know its not the video card in the gamers PC that has resulted in a inferior looking game. DE is newer and will look better for 6 months until they patch the PC version. Good PC GPUs can easily do what you see on the DE. Its up to the company if they want to.

      • SMH

        Did you forget your meds today? All he did was ask a legit question…

      • SMH

        Did you forget your meds today? All he did was ask a legit question…

      • Dakan45

        I thought tomb raider was an average game.

        They spend too much money on this game, 100 million to make it a dumbed down linear shooter.

        Now i dont think anyone should pay 60 bucks ot get a 30 fps hd remake. Also i dont like lara’s new face.

        This is what this essentially is.

        The pc version was mady by nixxes and not crystal dynamics.

        THe diffirencies are pretty small, like running a game on high and very high, its not particulary special.

        The big diffirence with tomb raider on pc and the “definitive” edition is that the pc version can run on old pcs and its super cheap, features better and remapable controls, it has 3D and overall i found it to be a more enjoyable experiance than playnig on a console thanks to 60 fps and better controls.

        I dont care enought about this game to declare one of the 2 versions “Definitive” but from what i have seen so far this “Definitve” edition is a joke.

        It just feels like you are wasting money to re-buy this. If you dont own this game, sure get on next gen cosnoles since there isnt anything noteworthy on it, but i am gonna act lke a consoletard and say they same thing you kiddos say about gta v:

        “what? you waiting for the “Definitive” edition? Who cares about that, we already finished the game its history now.

        Ps 2000$ pc? Hahahahahah Tomb raider is not a graphically impressive nor demanding game a 4 year old pc can max it at 60 fps, it is possible to builed a 400$ pc that can max tomb riader, infact a 5 year old pc can max it on 30 fps.

        So please continue to show off how cluless console games are. Bf3 and max payne 3 run at low graphic settings on consoles and metro, bf4 and crysis 3 run UNDER the lowest settings.

        Also games like far cry 3 run on 24 fps average and on medium settings.

        FINALLY new consoles came out , but xbox one having trouble achieving 1080p is kinda dissapointing.

        Personally my favorite games were dishonored and deus ex. Graphics>gameplay.

      • Grey Elf

        “Oh but you don’t need this edition because you and all the other PC mental midgets are going to argue that the DE still looks like crap compared to the PC version”

        I haven’t actually seen a single pc gamer say it looks worse, just different.

        “6 months of your MCdonalds paycheck on the super uber-edition monitor. So the PC douchebags shouldn’t want it…..”

        If a mcdonalds employee is smart enough to put together a gaming rig, what does that say about you?

        “So the PC douchebags shouldn’t want it…..”

        Name calling? Did the guy you replied to call anyone names?

        “You know people wouldn’t hate the PC douchebags so much IF you and or they actually managed to figure out that NOBODY but you cares about your PC set-up, ”

        This article SPECIFICALLY compares the console version to the PC version, so PC talk is entirely appropriate here.

        “No console gamer is impressed or jelly because you spent $2000 on a PC or a video card. ”

        You don’t need anywhere near 2k to build a nice pc….

        “Yet in they feel the need to come to every article about anything to fap on about their PC thinking anyone actually cares”

        I already mentioned this but, this is a pc related article so….

        Anyway, the only person here coming off as a hugh douche bag is you.

  • Mr. Talidar

    Cool! Now let’s get a re-release for the PC and see what happens :P

    • Dakan45

      yeah like legend that they messed up the pc version and it crashes with the next gen effects on.

      Nixxes made the pc version of the new tomb raider and they now work on thief. Pc doesnt get hd re-releases for 60 bucks thats for console idiots.

    • Tre

      They have already said that this will be a console release only.

  • ShadoSpawn

    Wow! The Definitive Edition is clearly the better of the two. The brightness in the color palette, the shadowing effects as well as the sun-light rays are beyond polish on the Definitive Edition. It is obvious the PS4 and Xbox One versions are easily superior to the PC version, and on Ultra at that, did I already say wow!

    • Dakan45

      I am a pc gamer but no, lara’s face is ugly, the only diffirncies in vegetation and the like are physics which more appropriatly is animations and the part with the blood on her face… that looks worse not better. Have you seen the movie descent? Thats where its from and it looks exaxctly like the pc version not washed out like the DE version.

  • Matt Brenner

    I don’t think you guys have any idea how good the PC version looks in 1440P on Ultra. Yeah that might be comparing an updated PS4 version vs a PC at *only* 1080P but now days lots of people like myself are playing on 1440P monitors. I have a PS4 as well but lets get real the PC will always look better, because of constantly updated hardware and a lot more $$.

    As far as the bloody shot, why would they change that? Did the PS3 version have the blood? I just recently beat it on PC and it was indeed bloody ( unexpected from TR game ).

    • Scase

      Hooray 1080p at 30fps lol God damned peasants.

      • Bob

        Dude, shut up. Consoles have some seriously awesome exclusives. It’s not all about graphics. As someone with a PC and consoles, I can say that people who are strictly PC gamers are missing out on some seriously awesome games, especially from PlayStation. But hey, if you’d rather just call people who play on a different platform than you “peasants,” then go ahead, I guess.

        • Junoh315

          Just like how people who are strictly PlayStation gamers miss out on Microsoft exclusives, PC exclusives, and Wii U exclusives. It works both ways. You miss out if you don’t have everything. That’s why you need to pick and choose which exclusives are worth paying hundreds for.

          The PS4 has not enough good games worth $400 right now; the Xbox One has not enough good games that are worth $500 for right now; and the Wii U has barely enough games to be worth $300(not counting backwards compatibility). PC, on the other hand, has so many good exclusives coming out every year that make it worth the $500-$600 entry cost; that and the games are dirt cheap on Steam and other competing digital retailers so you’ll probably pay less in the end or have a lot more to show for it.

          I will admit that the PS3 has amazing exclusives on it but there is no reason to adopt a PS4 this early and pay more for it. Especially when there are better alternatives.

          • Bob

            I uerstand that. Although Microsoft’s exclusive lineup for the 360 was laughable. I gave mine to my girlfriend. but in any case, it’s hardly fair to hold the exclusive libraries against ps4 and Xbox one right now considering they’ve been out for a little over a month. Early adopters such as myself ought he system as a long-term investment. So I guess I’m not really sure what the point you were trying to make is, but yes. Limiting urself to one platform us certainly restricting nd not the way I chhoose to game. I could care less what I’m playing on, as long as the games are good. I love my pc and consoles equally. I’ll even pick up a Wii y soon so I can get so.e Mario and Zelda in

    • Dakan45

      yeah the blood scen if from the movie descent, it looks much better on the pc version. They also changed her face, i dont like her know.

  • Trim Dose

    PC elitist rage in 3..2…1…O !!!! RUN BITCH@#ES RUN!!!

    • ShadoSpawn

      Lol!!! Hilarious!

    • Dakan45

      doesnt look objectively better, besides like you do with gta v “we already played that game its ancient history no one cares”

    • dakky

      even with the “Definitive Edition” changes, the next gen consoles version fail to trump the PC version”

      this is what Digital Foundary says

      “A direct comparison with the PC version set to the ultimate quality preset reveals some large discrepancies between the Definitive Editions compared with the full-fat PC experience. Aspects such as tessellation are missing on the characters and environments, with some of these elements appearing more blocky on the PS4 and Xbox One as a result. Meanwhile, motion blur is used much more sparingly, while texture resolution is noticeably lower in some cases.”

      “Running with the ultimate preset enabled and the original TressFX in action, it’s clear that the Definitive Edition delivers an upgrade in select areas, but fails to trump the PC game in all respects. Certainly, when it comes to running at 1080p60 – or with even higher resolutions and frame-rate – no other platform can truly offer a PC-beating experience.”"

      Cry?

  • Matt

    $60 for a texture pack.

    • bigevilworldwide

      I’m sorry but the DE looks better than PC, I know there are some PC idiots who will be unwilling to admit it but it does. There has been a lot of work put into the DE, so here’s a novel idea IF you don’t want it don’t purchase it. Those of us who like the amount of work that it sounds has gone into this will buy it

      • Bob

        Uh, that’s why he said $60 for a texture pack. The only difference is he slightly better graphics. Most people interested in the game have played it by Boaz especially considering it was just like 10 bucks during steams sale. So it’s basically $60 for a texture pack, as he said.

        • Jordan

          So then… $120 more than you paid? Since we know 90% of PC users torrent their games?

          • Bob

            Gotta love totally made up statistics

          • YOUDIEMOFO

            So you know PC enthusiasts pirate their games eh?! What you’re some kind of psychic?

            Dude I’m a damn PC ninja and any software worth purchasing I buy and if not then I don’t need to use it. Don’t just assume that since a PC is and always will be far superior to consoles in the fact that they’re far more “open sourced” that all people do is bootleg on PC’s…….

            Easier than hell for a dev to create a game on a “fixed” hardware install base (consoles) instead of having to cater to a million possible configurations on a personal computer. So naturally a second go around at their game is going to be better why wouldn’t it be….

          • Matt

            Most Pirates own low end machines… I know I wanted to test out most games on my PC before buying them outright.

            I haven’t pirated in years…

            Just call them PC paupers.

          • Matt

            Sarcasm? I haven’t torrented since Oblivion and that was just to test out my 8500gt at the time.

          • AbleAmazing

            And, with one quick sentence you proved how much of a fool you are.

          • twinspectre

            Common you cant be so serious
            as a Console gamer i don’t think PC gamers uses torrent this is a Old excuse man
            even Console Gamer uses torrent and don’t act like you didn’t know that

          • aleks

            I use torrents for all Wii, Ps3 and pc. I only buy games that i really love, extreme editions of the sequels. And in most of the cases the games i download i dont even finish cause they bore me. like assassin Creed black flag. as soon as i got the best ship, thats it, Chronicles of Ridick 40% complete. Batman arkham played for a few hours then couldn’t play any longer. Witcher 1 i’ve ddled then fall for it bought 1, 2, and gonna buy the third. Thank God for torrents :)

          • Zephek

            To be honest, most PC gamers do not torrent as torrent versions have no internet connectivity. Most PC games out there are only worth their online content.

          • Kranchan

            Except for the part where there are tons of great single player games on PC.

          • Lee Seviour

            Facetiousness and its best. I’ve never torrented a game. I rarely pay full price, don’t get me wrong, I look for bargains in sales (such as steam), but I always pay.

            As it happens, this one I bought on pre-order, because I’ve always loved TR. I’m a bit miffed that PC users are getting the short straw once again though.

          • Josh

            I know this is late, but I payed well over $2000 for my pc. Most pc games don’t torrent games. Because we can simply afford them…… And don’t think consoles are out of woods with pirating. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more people with stolen games on consoles than there are on pc.

          • Josh

            Gamers*

          • Dhruv

            and if you cant own them. you can work using your pc and make money to buy em :) I like my PC.

        • Kurt Kuppens

          it was cheaper on amazon lol

          • Bob

            At that low of a price, it doesn’t even matter.

      • Scase

        It looks better than the PC cause the original looked like shit as it needed to be toned down for crappy last gen consoles,

        Go look at something as old as Crysis 1 from 2001 and it looks better than the DE version of a 2013 game.

        Consoles have for the last 2/3 generations dragged actual graphics fidelity into the shitter with their outdated and weak ass gfx capabilities.

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          Crysis 1 was 2007, but you make your point otherwise.

          • Matt

            2001… Doom 3 was another 4 years away.

        • Sobekflakmonkey

          Lulz

        • twinspectre

          XD crysis 1 from 2001

          • Scase

            I was thinking farcry haha

          • twinspectre

            Lol :) , all i know is 2001 games graphic look like Deus Ex 1

        • Semento

          Crysis 1 is from 1972 year, and it will looks better than all games forever, even from over 9000 year.

      • Dakan45

        “pc idiots”

        Funy coming from a consoletard who cant tell the diffirence between 720p and 1080p and thinks pcs who can run this cost 2000$ i can make a 400$ pc that can max out the pc version. So dont give me any crap, you console idiots dont know crap when it comes tographics.

        “Those of us who like the amount of work that it sounds has gone into this will buy it”

        Thats why you are iditos, 60 bucks for the same game with some “changes” rather improvements.

        Does you version have 3d? Remappable buttons? 60 fps? over 1080p res?

        NOPE? then its not “Definitive”

        • twinspectre

          from a Console gamer you damn Right
          but when you said Consoletard you offended me

          • Dakan45

            i apologize but being called “midget idiot” that spends 2000 on a pc is annoying.

            The diffirence between the pc version and console version on x360/ps3 games is massive. Hooray for new consoles.

            Now can we have better games and not any more identical corridor shooters?

            The original prototypes for tomb raider features horse riding with shadow of colossus monsters, a sillent hill like horror game with similar monsters and a little girl as sidekick with lara having a motorbike.

            Instead of all those things we got a generic brown and grey cover based shooter with limited climbing to be had.

          • twinspectre

            i hate some console gamers because i know they are Idiots

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Well I’m not an idiot, I just unfortunately never got exposed to PC gaming at an early age :( but that’s gonna change when I get a Steam account really soon and get in on the fun. The holiday sale on there is over now right?

          • twinspectre

            i have a steam account i enjoy playing CS1.6 and HalfLife mod called Action Half Life as you can see i don’t care about graphic :)

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            cool. so how much is half life on steam-I’ve been meaning to get my hands on it as I’m obsessed with and literally dying to play the game, as I’ve heard so many great things but only saw some footage of its greatness. and yeah I don’t care about graphics either, it’s all about the game itself as a whole. I WANT HALF LIFE 3!

          • twinspectre

            Half Life shits on call of duty and battlefield IMO
            i loved HL1 more than HL2 , EP1 and EP2 my Oppinion

            You will not be dissapointed with Half Life and i hope Valve will Announce HALF LIFE 3

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah, with Steam Box coming out there’s gotta be a software announcement they have in mind to back it up. I’ll be the happiest human being on the planet the moment I play Half Life.

          • twinspectre

            Believe me Half Life is one of the best FPS ever made
            but some not Everybody console gamers will never understand all they care is Call of Duty or Sports game

            which for me this is the reason why Console Gamers will never be taken seriously , i hope Console gamers will understand what is a great game instead of Call of Duty BS

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            yeah, I’m with you there. I hate Call of Duty and hope ActiVision drops it as its sales are declining and people clearly wanna play other games than that now. I wonder if the original Half Life 1 and 2 actor for Gordon Freeman is even still alive so that they can make the game at all.

          • twinspectre

            i never heard Freeman’s voice :)

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            oh alright, well the motion capture person they used for his movement. maybe they can use him so we can finally hear his voice, if necessary.

          • stuart

            You do realize that Half life and Half life 2 have been released on consoles, right?

          • aleks

            I so do not get people who play action shooters on consoles.. I’ve used to be in 4 man team regional champion in 1999-2001 on HL & CS . how can u play that kind of games properly? so don’t get it.. :(

          • Jacob Carson

            Mass Effect was beast too. Even though its 3rd person

          • Jacob Carson

            Steam Box runs on Open GL which is much slower than DirectX11. I watched early comparisons and Windows dominated Steam OS by 30 fps, which definitely helps it look much smoother. Until Steam OS and Steam Box have been out a while, I would recommend just waiting, unless you just want it for the Linux games and still get a good deal. Windows games are currently not compatible with Steam OS since Steam OS is a Linux based OS. All you can do is stream. That would be like saying that Xbox One can stream footage from your phone but the phone sucks

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh, it’s only OpenGL at the moment? Ok, I’ll wait then until I can do either Windows or Linux. Got it. I wonder if Valve will announce support for AMD’s Mantle later on after the boxes have been out for awhile and more games make use of it.

          • Dakan45

            i had enough graphics for 10 years, i want gameplay from now on.

            Dishonored is not graphically imrpessive, but who cares? it plays well.

          • twinspectre

            Exactly
            Graphic isn’t everything for a Game

          • das

            conkers bad fur day is my fave ever game … N64 bitch

          • Lee Seviour

            Not sure I agree with that to be honest. The fidelity may not have been the best in the world, but Dishonored had a great graphical design and immersion. I’ll take that over fidelity any day of the week. World realisation in that game was immense.

        • James Ellis

          TXAA is nvidia tech and the consoles all have AMD hardware. I’d be rather surprised if the game didn’t have any kind of AA, it could have MSAA for all I know, I’m not entirely sure well you could optimize all that memory to deal with the massive buffers from it, if they went for post-processing I hope they managed SMAA, I think it presents a much cleaner image when compared to other post-processing AA methods (especially TXAA – yuck!).

          This ‘console idiot’ knows more than you apparently, although I do work in graphics hardware so I perhaps have a slight advantage…

          Sure I could buy this game on steam for cheap, I certainly have a PC more than powerful enough to deal with ultra settings but this strikes me as the sort of game I’d prefer to play in the sitting room on a sofa with a nice controller (my general preference for most games), I plan on getting a PS4 soon but this is the first game that actually interests me, better graphics is nice and £40 doesn’t really bother me so I’m happy to pay, well aware its just a graphical update for a game I could get cheaper.

        • Steve Clayton

          Definitive ps4 does it have button remapping PS4

        • Amer Al-Hiyasat

          I know this is out of context, but could you perhaps tell me what this $400 PC consists of? I really doubt you could run it on ultra on a $400 PC. The GTX 780 itself costs more than $400.

      • Vulcanproject

        Meh I played it on ultra on PC over 6 months ago ago at a resolution the new consoles couldn’t do, with quality of filtering and framerate the consoles aren’t doing, and I still only paid about $25 for it.

        I don’t think I’m missing much from the ‘definitive edition’, and If I were to buy this for a new console I would wait until the price came down.

      • Greg Bob

        Oh the DE version will look better than my PC version playing at 1440P at 96FPS? Let me laugh harder!

        • Dakan45

          with 3d and better controls.

          Seriously if you compare blackflag on ps3 and ps4 there is bigger diffirence this DE is a cashgrab.

      • Matt

        It’s the “PC idiots” (oxymoron) that know exactly what they’re buying… Mind you DE is also releasing on PC as well in case you’re mistaking this for a Console/PC argument. For those who bought Tomb Raider on PC last year there’s nothing warranting the $60 price besides some minor texture improvements and light shafts.

        • YOUDIEMOFO

          No no no Matt….. From now on I’m going to wait for all game releases a year or so after so I can get the “definitive, gold, master, uber, epic, boss, collectors, game of the year, enhanced, OMG look textures, mines better than yours edition……..

          And maybe at that time the game would have been finished properly and patched up the arse with 20+gb of bloat to run like it should have on release day!

          Just doesn’t pay to buy day one games any more…..devs approach these days are”eh, we’ll just patch it………….DAY ONE!!! Suck it!

          • Scase

            Or we can just plays games on PC like Skyrim where people make free texture packs that make the original look like crap in comparison :D

          • YOUDIEMOFO

            Couldn’t agree with you more. I can’t wait and see what they “hopefully” allow in the online version….

            Pissed! I won’t have my power ran in time to take advantage of my beta this weekend in some ESO!!

          • Dakan45

            gta iv on pc has far better graphics than gta v.

            Just saying.

          • YOUDIEMOFO

            And when V comes out on PC this year we will be treated to some more amazing mods and builds of the game that would not be possible any where else…

          • Matt

            If you brought up Conker live and reloaded I wouldn’t have an argument for you.

            Tomb raider… eh. I wouldn’t buy the game twice.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            what are main differences between Bad Fur Day and Live and Reloaded?

          • Matt

            Graphics… besides it being an awesome game no matter what system you play it on.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            ok. that won’t be a problem for me.

          • Jacob Carson

            Just so you know, yes the textures may be better on console but there is no AA it seems on the console and from what I heard both games (XO and PS4) can’t even hit 1080p, plus the resolution on PC can be raised to 2k or 4k resolution. I actually have both cause I am an idiot to spend my money like that, and I compared them on both of my screens. Imagine you just woke up in the morning and your vision is slightly blurry, thats what comparing Definitive edition on 1080p is to 2k resolution. I feel like im waking up playing D.E. Only thing that actually looked better was Lara Croft and her hair flow. It stands out kind of bad actually like its too good for the surrounding blurriness

        • Tre

          Last time I checked DE said this will be a console release only.

          • Matt

            eh.. still am I missing anything?

      • twinspectre

        “i Know there are some PC idiots” said the Idiot of the year
        60$ for an Upgrade
        im a Playstation 4 Owner

        • Grey Elf

          In reading just two of bigevil’s posts, I have come to the rather sound conclusion that he must be a middle school aged potato.

      • Sherman Durr

        Textures PC PS4 by a lot!

        • Sherman Durr

          A lot!

      • Matt Kaya

        I already played the definitive edition on Pc at 4k60. Beat that, idiot.

    • Idol

      Except it’s not a pack, it’s simply a game. You don’t need a basic version to play it.

  • Janglez

    why not show PS4 vs Ultimate settings???????

    • tarbis

      isn’t the ultra settings the ultimate settings already?

      • bigevilworldwide

        Not to the PC mental midgets, they seem to think that because they can get things to run at resolutions higher than 1080p that the settings are not actually ultra/ultimate….It’s basically denial because in this case the DE does look better than the PC

        • Dakan45

          How tell me how it looks better, it looks a bit diffirent, but better? lara’s face is uglier, the godrays from the pc version are no in the screenshot, the bloodbath scene looks worse, the lighting is more or less the same, how it looks better?

          Its like they put a few extra effects in it, which we CAN do via mods and called it new. its pathetic really.

          Even if you compable blackflag with ps4/ps3 you can see a bigger diffirence.

          Enjoys your 30 fps.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            So you’re saying with your access to make mods, you can make Lara look even BETTER than what Crystal Dynamics has done to redo her for the Definitive Edition and even make her more realistic and closely accurate to it? You must be a true artist in real life to have that expertise.

          • Scase

            Just go take a look at some of the texture and mod packs for Skyrim on PC. They have been made LEAGUES better than what the Devs did.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Fine. Still no excuse though Bethesda to be lazy when it comes to the graphics side of things.

          • Scase

            It’s not bethesdas fault, it’s consoles. The only reason the game was made to look so “meh” is because they needed it to be able to run on consoles. That’s why I pointed out Crysis earlier, that game was made for the PC and PC alone and its graphical fidelity rivals the best games the PS4/Xbone have shovelled out thus far.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yes I see your point, but with more parity between PS4/Xbox One and PC, do you think games such as The Witcher 3:Wild Hunt and Lords of the Fallen will not feel the impact between the disparity of consoles and PC as much since the former are more powerful than their predecessors?

          • Scase

            They are certainly more powerful than their predecessors but GFX cards for PCs are as well.

            The current gen is no closer to a high end rig now than the last gen was when it was released. As I stated previously the gap between choosing their onboard gfx and when the console is released will never be overcome, unless they allow you to buy new gfx cards and put those in. Which is impossible and then you might as well buy a PC.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yes, unfortunately that’s a sadly inevitable truth we have to face. Perhaps Valve’s Steam Box will be the middle ground for that compromise and maybe consoles will take on that model from that point afterwards if they’re successful, which I don’t doubt, since Gabe Newell is the mastermind behind it after all.

          • Dakan45

            i dont think the new lara is prettier,, i think the game looks worse. I also think its a cashgrab. Also check gta iv on pc with ENB, it looks better than gta v.

            Like i said i dont care much. i want a proper tomb raider game not a cinematic “reallistic” cover based shooter

            The original prototypes for this game featured sillent hill monsters, horse riding and shadow of colossus giants, a little girl as sidekick and a motorbike.

            instead of that, we got this brown and grey cover shooter.

            Hooray for 100 million development budget and massive hype yet they just broke even, how about using that money to make interesting levels and climbing sections?

            Ps your friends are organized trolls, i show you the pictures of them going around and trolling in diffirent sites.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            well she’s prettier in the DE IMHO, we agree to disagree on that subject. also, we haven’t even seen what the whole game looks like with all the touch ups and all that-perhaps they’ll release a patch at launch to fix any aliasing and pop up textures that may show up since it is still coming out early in this cycle. Yeah, I want a real Tomb Raider where I have to utilize my tools and use my brain to progress through and not just mindlessly kill and kill to get by. Perhaps due to the constraints of last gen, they had to cut, but maybe since this gen will free up their creativity they will go back to what made Lara Croft..well..the Tomb Raider, and not jump the gun again. And yes, I love platformers so I hope more climbing and jumping sections are put into the sequel or at least are compensated with unique puzzle and level design like you’re saying. And for the record, although my friends may assume the position of trolling, I don’t troll anyone so rest assured that you won’t get that behavior from me, and they don’t troll, they just want people to understand and accept and bash them for their opinions, so they lash out and rebel on those who hate on their ideals. I hope you understand that-they don’t do this for fun, like trolls do.

          • Dakan45

            ” I hope you understand that-they don’t do this for fun, like trolls do.”

            Is that why they have youtube videos in which they demonstrate how tro troll majornelson com?

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            No, you see, it was TheScienceEnthusiast1130′s idea to start bashing him since he was insulting Nintendo and acting like a fan boy so he came up with ways to troll at him to defend his pride, and he’s the only one who did that. everyone else was just his minions-excluding me-that assisted him in carrying out his plans. Well, I’m happy to tell you his reign of terror is over and he will leave you and everyone else alone from now on. I dealt with him-actually the whole group did with some external help-and now he will never bother you again. You don’t have to believe everything I’m saying and can check out our site if you think I’m screwing you over. Otherwise, you’ll thank me later and know that you can live in peace now.

        • twinspectre

          i don’t care about graphic and dude stop writing stupid thinks because at the end of the Day PC will be Superior than Console deal with it

          im a PS4 owner and i don’t care about graphic
          tell me why i decide to buy a PS4 over a PC ? it’s simple because Graphic for me isnt a Big deal

  • Adam Savage

    Looks better but they are charging full price… Good for the fans but anyone who plays a lot of games won’t want to waste a lot more Money for it to play the same.

    • wayne williams

      I am

    • ShadoSpawn

      Great point! Regardless of the enhanced visuals and newly added updates, the Definitive Edition should cost no more than $39.99. At that cost the game would sell like hotcakes, @ $60, I’ll pass.

      • bigevilworldwide

        Uh yeah NO….The only way it should be $39.99 is if it were a direct port which we know for a FACT is not….A lot of time, effort and money have been put into it…This isn’t some lame lazily done HD edition type scenario

        • Dakan45

          “if it were a direct port which we know for a FACT is not….”

          Kid you dont even know what a port is.

          “.A lot of time, effort and money have been put into it…This isn’t some lame lazily done HD edition type scenario”

          It is,

          You think the pc version did not take effort, time and money? It had better graphics than the console version and new effects and capabilites, same case with this version, why is it so diffirent? It is basicly a patch, nothing more.

  • http://www.newgamenetwork.com nutcrackr

    Her ponytail does not seem to move in the DE gif.

  • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

    just by seeing the first GIF i say the definitive looks way better , from lighting and environments detail , just look at the rocks on the left of her and see the shadowing and the new details .

    • http://www.craveonline.com/ Jonathan Leack

      Nope.

      • chitown

        Yep. You’re in denial, Jonathan.

        • ShadoSpawn

          Exactly! It is disturbingly ridiculous how much fanboyism turns a blind eye at the glaring obvious. I believe what’s more glaring is the butt-hurt gamer whose $1200 PC gets outperformed by the $399 and $499 next-gen gaming rigs…at the moment of course, and that drive them crazy! Lol!!!

          • Kirk Martin

            Because for the console you pay for the game, a lot more then the pc version of the game. And you miss out on some truly fantastic games like Elite Dangerous which is coming out soon on PC, and also Apple, and I cannot see this being released on consoles, they do not have the graphical power to cope, remember they are only using AMD APU’s in both systems, hardly top of the range gear!

          • Bob

            Or you could just have a pc and console and then not miss anything

          • Scase

            I’ll repost my comment since it applies here too.

            It looks better than the PC cause the original looked like shit as it needed to be toned down for crappy last gen consoles,

            Go look at something as old as Crysis 1 from 2001 and it looks better than the DE version of a 2013 game.

            Consoles have for the last 2/3 generations dragged actual graphics fidelity into the shitter with their outdated and weak ass gfx capabilities.

          • Junoh315

            What? This isn’t outperforming. This is an updated version of a game. It could easily come to PC and I’d be able to play it in 60 FPS.

        • Kirk Martin

          These consoles all use AMD processors, the top gaming PC is still much more powerful then these next gen consoles…

          • Scase

            A midrange PC is still much more powerful.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            So then in theory by the end of this console generation, do you think next gen will at least eclipse mid range as obviously high end and ultra are too far off mostly for them to top completely?

          • Junoh315

            The next generation will likely be on par with the mid-range cards of the same year it’s released. Then it will slowly become the equivalent of a low-range card in 4-5 years.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Seems plausible. in that case do you see PC advancements stagnating like they did in the late 90s and early 2000s where they were pretty much close with consoles for years until the arrival of Crysis 1 on PC?

          • Junoh315

            Not really. Nvidia is spending billions on new advancements every year. They’re making smaller and smaller chips with more features than ever. However, I do think that there will be a couple of years where they will stagnate. If quantum computing or carbon-based boards start becoming more popular in the future then they will need to divert funds to researching into those technologies.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah that’s true. How small do you think the chips can get until it becomes too much power consumption on the chips or they just run out of room that they need to take a step back and tread more carefully? And yeah, with new tech, such as DDR4, coming out later this year, they’re gonna wanna head back to square one and assess how they go from there if they don’t want to end up hitting a roadblock. When do you think developers will finally switch to blu ray discs for their games and manufacturers show bigger support for blu ray drices, as DVDs are gonna surely be extinct within the next decade and go the way of the VCR?

          • Junoh315

            My guess would be that Blu-Ray will be the only option in 5-10 years. That will be when most games are too big for several DVDs and 4K starts becoming the new standard. They didn’t switch to DVDs until they had games that took 7-8 CDs to fully install.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah I’m afraid that’s the accurate projection of its dominance as new tech always takes a while to be adopted by the public. Now that Microsoft is using Blu Ray in the Xbox One, perhaps they’ll release the benefits of Blu Ray sooner since its basically a PC per se, so with their experience on Xbox One in the early part of the cycle, this will prompt them to push the tech further into the PC market and advance PC gaming even further, as Microsoft is still a big driver with PC’s, much more than they are with consoles.

          • Scase

            I had a really long detailed reply to you but the stupid website never posted it so I’ll give you a tldr; version.

            Unlikely, Console manufacturers already sell consoles at a loss for the first couple years of their life spans so too costly, and the only way for them to reach mid-mid/high levels is at the R&D stage when they decide on a GFX (which is years before release) card they would need to pick the most advanced enthusiast card on the market so that by the time they release it’s still considered mid-mid/high.

            That coupled with them selling at a loss makes it extremely unlikely.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Well this time around Sony and Microsoft built there machines effectively, albeit with minor defects that usually happen at launch, and saved much more money on building the consoles, especially Sony, so I see in close to a year a little over, the price will be dropped like Wii U’s price dropped since the sales they will get will eclipse the initial costs needed to manufacture the consoles. I think it’ll be likely if they gather a huge understanding of how PC tech works-excluding MS since they were the purveyors back in the day on that front and continue to support PC gaming-they can leverage the consoles to reach heights that were never possible at first but came about after tinkering with it. Take into account also that both support 4K resolution and the comparison just gets even more complex.

          • Scase

            Well yes and no, they might be able to bridge the gap more in the future but at that point they will just be selling mid range PCs with custom OSes which can be argued is what they are doing now. Just incredibly closed systems which tends to be bad for innovation.

            Also a slight correction, the current gen are not capable of 4k resolution. It’s been said that in the future they will be able to DISPLAY 4k video files they will in no way shape or form be able to RENDER 4k games. They might be able to upscale but even that has yet to be seen.

            As far as 4k rendering is concerned at this point the only cards out there that are capable of such feats are the ATI R290X and apparently the new 780ti or 790ti(when it comes out). ANd those are top level current enthusiast cards, so theres not a snowballs chance in hell the xbone or ps4 can do that, especially considering neither of them can consistently display 1080p without massive framerate issues.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            yes I see what you’re saying on that part, but actually Xbox One is the only current gen capable of 4K resolution, as Larr Hryb-a.k.a. Major Nelson- said that it has a 4K rated HDMI so their games will support upscaling on 4K TVs in a better capacity than PS4. I don’t know if Xbox One will try to produce native 4K games down line, but I wouldn’t be surprised if once 4K becomes more mainstream, near the end of its life the last of its games may support native 4K or come close to that quality while PS4 will only support 4K video streaming. if Xbox One doesn’t end up doing native 4K games, at least their games will definitely support upscale to 4K without a doubt, though they actually haven’t gone in depth on that subject, yet. Xbox One has the edge over PS4 in that area. Also, remember that they just released so early games won’t display all the prowess of next gen at this time. Do count on there being a massive gap between late gen/end of gen games and early gen games even though people are saying “this is about as good as it gets with the new systems, with only minor improvements expected to be seen that will ever happen during the cycle, supposedly making people believe the consoles are already near maxed out in quality and only have a little bit to go. Wii U’s first party games (excluding first party launch titles which were 720p@60fps) go 1080p@60fps, even in third party exclusives such as Sonic Lost World and The Wonderful 101 and doesn’t have humongous frame rate drops or anything like that-and that’s coming from a system people say isn’t part of this gen with PS4 and Xbox One. Sure, Wii U has been out for over a year now so devs are taking more advantage of what it can do, but it’s highly debatable that given Xbox One and PS4′s bigger edge in graphics, that should’ve been an easier feat for them but look how that turned out. Trust me-2014 will be the year consoles take the world by storm, again, even if not at the levels of PCs.

          • Scase

            Like I said earlier, upscaling to 4k is definitely in the cards but I repeat, native 4k will NEVER happen on current consoles. If PCs right now can barely handle it and graphically high end GFX cards are YEARS ahead of current consoles, there is no feasible way a console can.

            Will games get better looking as the system ages? Of course it happens all the time, but they will never reach the fidelity of a PC simply because the PC landscape is always changing while consoles are locked in for 6+ years to heavily ageing hardware.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Ok, I’ll take your word on that. remember though that consoles were once ahead of PCs, it can happen once it can happen again.

        • Dakan45

          ” that this particular edition of the game is superior.”

          30 fps, no 3D cant go higher 1080p, no customizable controls BUT HEY YOU CAN GIVE VOICE COMMANDS TO LARA.

          No its not superior.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Its superior in that this edition of the game offers a different experience that transcends that of the original versions-which include PC, no matter how far off in light years even the PC version is.

          • Dakan45

            How it offers a diffirent experiance? its the same game and it doesnt run on 60 fps nor have great controls or vastly better graphics.

            If you havent played this game, might as well buy it, but its mainly a cashgrab to make their losses back.

            I am not saying either version is better than the other. But i cant really reccomend this game when they changed’ lara’s face, believe it or not what i liked the most about this game is lara’s face and personality. Not the actual gameplay or graphics.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            The graphics and the different controller you use can change the level of realism that you experience in the game that compliments the story and Lara as a character that’s feeling all the commotion go on around her, so for some people the game will feel like a new experience like how people play original games from early 2000s and then play their HD remakes and it feels familiar yet knew to them, that’s how I see it, and for some it won’t since not much new content is added otherwise so I understand and respect your view on that. Yes, tbh I never played any tomb raider game before this so when I saw this game in Gameinformer, I instantly wanted it because of how life like and awesome they made this new Lara Croft, and it just blew me away honestly so I’m with you there. Yeah the story actually wasn’t the main reason I wanted to play in the first place exactly when I first heard about the game in that sense but was one of the main reasons I picked up the game, and also graphics are never a dealbreaker for me so no matter what it looked like I was gonna pick it up, as long as the game play was satisfying, as it was to a degree except for the freaking QTEs that happen occasionally. All I know is the moment I saw what the game looked like, I had to have it, and after finding out about the story, I wanted it more. duly noted. I was very pissed off when showing that first trailer, they how gorgeous Lara looked in CGI cutscenes and then playing the game, she looks nothing like her CGI counterpart, which I preferred much more honestly over her in game model. So you can say the only reason also I was excited to hear about this remake was that they made her model sexier and closer to her CGI model, as before with the regular Lara in the original version for me it created inconsistencies with every time I see Lara, I wanna see the CGI model but I can’t since the game uses in game cutscenes :( kind of a letdown on their part if you ask me so I was hyped to know they fixed that. If I do get it, I’m getting it on Xbox One, even though I hate it, because I prefer the 360′s control scheme for the game over PS3′s, so that’s what I’m gonna do if I even get Xbox One soon enough, as I already plan to get PS4. Also, how much is it on PC as I’m considering getting a Steam account now that I have a computer that can support some of the latest games? Are there any sales going on anymore or is most of everything back to its original sale price on Steam? Also, so does that mean IF the sequel is made for PC, as they haven’t confirmed it as a platform, would you still get it on PC, and if they drop support for it, which next gen console would you get the sequel for? I’m not trying to down play your opinion as I understand what it’s like for a series to undergo a drastic change-MGS V; Kiefer Sutherland as Big Boss-I was just expressing my point on the subject.

      • bigevilworldwide

        Of course not to you, your most likely a PC fanboy and hate the fact that the DE looks better than the PC version

        • Al

          I like how everyone who says it doesn’t look better is a “PC Fanboy” I guess suddenly we aren’t allowed to have opinions unless we aren’t one and we agree with you

        • ps3n4g

          Man you’re one damage control butthurt faggot. So many comments of yours trying to justify paying $60 for a PC port of a last gen game clearly meant to sucker in console plebs who enjoy getting raped in the wallet by their platform of choice. Picked this game up for $5 during the Steam Winter Sale with all the advantages the consoles lack, even additionally ENB for better enhancement then the half-assed godray effects they churned out for this port. Enjoy getting ripped off.

    • Dakan45

      says the guy who thinks the last of us beats every pc gamer outhere…nope.

      • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

        i don’t like the exclusives for PC the only game i liked is command and conquer : generals , so for me yeah TLOU and halo and gears is better than any other game that’s exclusive for pc

        • Dakan45

          i am talking about graphics, TLOU graphics are awful. There really isnt a visible improvement in those screenshots while it litteraly blows away tlou graphics.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            as i always say , pc = graphics , consoles = games and games > graphics
            and for almost 10 years old console TLOU is impressive

          • Dakan45

            are you kidding me how the hell doesnt pc have more gameplay than graphic?

            Minecraft, horror games, mmos, mods, papers please, antichamber, day z, total war, sim city, all those games focus on gameplay over graphics.

            Killzone 3 was more impressive.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            as i said in previews comment im not a fan of the type of game pc provide like MMO strategy and sim , the only game i liked is command and conquer : generals .
            and i think day z is available in xbox live !!!

            about killzone ive tried it , and ive hated it i don’t know why you guys like it , the story is rubbish , the gameplay is great same as the graphics , but with no good story the campaign feels dumb , and the multiplayer feels a bit old … sorry but that’s just my opinion :/

          • Dakan45

            ehmmm for the 4th time, i was comparing grapics in no way is killzone 3 or crysis 3 better games than last of us.

            Also we play on pc for tons of reasons, no mp fees, cheaper games, mods, better sound, customizable controls, better graphics, backwards compability emulators.

            But the exlusives pc has are diffirent and focus more on gameplay than graphics. Pc isnt just about graphics. Thats all i said.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            we only pay 5$ per month for mp so that’s nothing , in graphics and cheaper games you’re tottaly right , but in better sound and control no , there are pro gaming headspeakers just for consoles and i made some sort of port that allowed me to make my 36 work with my normal headspeakers (the pc ones) , and about controls , console controllers ate the best for third person , adventure game , rpg , hack-slash games and racing games , meanwhile pc’s mouse and kb are the best when it comes to mmo and rpg and lately i found diablo 3 more fun with controller on my 360 than on my pc , i don’t like mmo’s but everyone was talking about diablo 3 so i had to try it .

          • Dakan45

            No i am not wrong, pc has better sound due to having super dedicated audio hardware

            Check this

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            ohh i thought you were talking about speakers and headsets , yeah in special effects audio effects and graphics PC now have the advantage considering the games are getting bigger and the 360 + ps3 are really old hardware so the dev’s have to cut and reduce quality of the audio to optimize the game for the consoles , i don’t think this issue exists in the older games , just the new ones …

          • Dakan45

            Actually it does, but since ps4 has a dedicated audio chip, that might change.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            ohhh i didn’t know that , but now i do so thx :) , anyway i didn’t get a next gen yet (haven’t decided yet) ill pick one at the end of 2014 its X1 or PS4 , depends on the games , have you bought one yet or you just play on pc ?

          • Dakan45

            i am not doing anything my old pc can still play next gen games and there really isnt anything i want coming out anytime soon, so no rush to buy anything, if watchdogs doesnt suck,maybe ill upgrade for that. But there isnt any game on any system to make me buy a console or upgrade right now.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            yeah im with you ,there is no game appeal in the next gen so far , so im waiting till 2014 end to see who’s really got the best lineup :D

        • Scase

          The fact that you rank Halo as better than any pc exclusive shows you lack taste.

          Halo is basically call of duty in space. It’s generic and does nothing new from iteration to iteration. It is the flavourless yoghurt of the video game world.

          Look at any of the console franchises, Halo pretty much all very similar, COD same, infamous same, Gears of war same, God of war SAME.

          All the same game each sequel. Oh except for the graphics which get a bit better, but you don’t care about graphics, just stagnant unchanging gameplay.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            halo have both great campaign and mp so halo fans care about the spartans and master chef and when i play the mp i can play it for hours without getting a bit bored .
            and let me see the other games you’ve mentioned , CoD is crap as usual , infamous 2 sure is not like infamous 1 just look the the mechanics and powers and you can tell , gears of war 3 isn’t like GoW1 and 2 and judgment was great with faster new challenges and more action , if you thing god of war 1 is same as 2 and same as 3 you’re way out of your mind .
            and console players love graphics but we won’t choose the graphics over the games , and it feels great that devs must upgrade the games and make them look better even on an 8 years old machine and don’t have to upgrade anything maybe just an update and that’s all , mean while PC players have to upgrade the pc every while , and when next gen arrives now you guys required to have 8G+ rams with GTX+ graphic cars just to run the games on med settings so yeah CONSOLES > PC

          • Scase

            You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Pc gamers have to upgrade every while? What does that even mean? Require more than 8 gigs of ram? NO game requires more than that jesus, you’re just talking out of your ass.

            And wtf is a GTX+ graphic card? Your whole post is full of stupidity and ignorance, you can run current games on med settings with 3 year old cards. Instead of spouting bullshit try doing some research instead of just random crap you heard some other idiot say.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            the fact that most games now requires 8G ram , so most pc gamers must have at least 8G rams that why i wrote 8+ as if 8G and more dumdum , and for gtx+ i mean more than half of the upcoming gamers requires GTX graphics card or one similar with its power so every pc gamer should have a GTX graphic or more powerful one like titan that why i wrote GTX+ assface

            and no 3 years old cards won’t run it my friend have a gts graphic card and BF4 hardly run on it , and COD ghosts requires 8G rams so he can’t even run it at all ….

          • Scase

            Jesus christ you are stupid.

            COD Ghosts is an incredibly crappy port on a shitty engine. You can run bf4 on high with a 5870 which came out sep 2009 and 4-6gb of ram. Take your stupidity elsewhere.

            Lastly the fact that you think something like a titan is something people should have shows how dumb you are yet again. Titans are 1000$ and not even the fastest cards on the market. Christ you just keep spewing the same dumb crap every console peasant thinks to be true.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            oh my fucking god , you’re a real retard , good god how much someone can be this stupid , im saying old graphic cards barely runs BF4 , they run it but with low graphics and the game is so slow slower that your mind , and i said COD is the one who needs 8G rams not BF i don’t know why COD needs more specs that BF4 but it does PC logic are dumb , maybe even dumber than you …
            and i said something huge like titan i didn’t say its the best graphic card out there idiot i just referred to it as a big fat-ass fast graphic card .
            gosh pc gamers are dumber than i thought , jesus christ .

          • Scase

            Are you fucking kidding me? I literally just pointed out a 4+ year old card that could run BF4 on med-high which is what the stupid consoles currently run it at, or x360/ps3 run it on very low.

            Secondly if you could fucking read you’d see why COD needs higher specs, shitty port, and an old crappy engine. You don’t even grasp basic concepts yet you clamour on about PC gamers being dumb?

            Just because you are too fucking stupid to do some basic research doesn’t make your ridiculous claims true.

            I’m done with your ignorance.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            just one final comment , THE STUPIDITY IS GREAT IN THIS ONE ….

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          So you’re excited for Halo Xbox One?

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            well , a bit yeah if the rumors were true then it would be great , if they weren’t its still a good game :)

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah the leaked details so far are amazing and I hope they turn out to be true, and that whatever 343 plans to show ‘in the not too distant future’ as they say will confirm them or most of it.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            i really hope they will turn to be true , then halo would be like star wars game with a bit of mass effect , i won’t let my hopes high like i did for ryse , so ill just hope it would be good and feels like a next gen game ^_^

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Me too, Halo never disappoints. I don’t see this one to be the exception.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            me too ^_^ , with halo titanfall fable and quantum break ms is on fire this year , i hope they’ll keep up making gamers like this more often unlike last gen :/

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah, especially Quantum Break-that will be the Xbox One’s first killer app besides Halo.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            yeah :) , but i still didn’t get a next gen console so in the end of 2014 the games will make me decide , have you bought a next gen console yet ?

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yes, the Wii U. The next one I plan to get is PS4. And then Xbox One.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            i played some WiiU games they sure was awesome (the console if for a friend of mine) mario 3D world is great :D

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yes, Super Mario 3D World is amazing and I still have it-I hope though that Nintendo makes their next Mario game single player, like Galaxy, Sunshine and 64.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            64 is the best , galaxy is great but i didn’t play it a lot cause i didn’t have a wii , nintendo should make a zelda game like the one in the WiiU tech demo that demo looks great and it would be a great seller for the WiiU

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah, it’s the one that started it all-the true 3D gaming era and set the basics for 3D platforming. get the galaxy games to play on the Wii U, since it’s backwards compatible with Wii games. They don’t plan to make Zelda Wii U the exact same art style as the tech demo and plan to use a unique art style that hasn’t been used in any other Zelda before but still resonates with fans and newcomers. Yeah, Zelda will be a true killer app for the system.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            ohhh right i forgot that WiiU can run Wii games , thx for reminding me :D . yeah both zelda and bayonetta 2 is great for the WiiU , this year is like a showdown for nintendo MS and sony and that’s best for gamers ^_^

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            yup, competition is what keeps the 3 of them all alive as of now. 2014 will be even better than 2013 could ever be.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            yeah everyone thought 2013 would be the best year for games but 90% of next gen games that year but it sucked balls , i hope the games on 2014 won’t disappoint

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah big disappointment. 2014 is the year everyone decides which company takes the crown so the competition will leave little to no room for disappointment.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            yeah , and there are a lot of people just like me who didn’t decide yet witch console they should choose , so 2014 will be the best year to decide ^_^

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Indeed. 2014 will be the year gaming changes all over again. My bets are on Wii U and PS4-I don’t see Microsoft owning 2014, even with Halo on the horizon.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            on contrary i think MS is strong this year with quantum break , halo , titanfall , d4 , fable , sun set over drive and exclusive raiden mission in MGSV . so far my bets are one PS4 and X1 , nintendo should announce more games to win this year (that’s just my opinion)

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            I highly doubt Quantum Break will make the 2014 cut off-they’ve barely shown footage and didn’t even hint at a release window like Microsoft gave for Halo. Plus they’re developing a mobile title alongside it so it will be awhile before we get the game. As for Nintendo, I think they’re all good-they just gotta announce those good games they’re working and instill everyone’s confidence in them back.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            im sure ive heard its gonna be released in 14 but i can’t remember where ive heard it , ill search for it then send you a link , all i want from nintendo is an open world pokemon game for the WiiU , if they did that then screw all other platforms :D

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Alright, thanks ;) All I want from Nintendo is a single player 3D Mario game that goes back to the old days of exploration and a 3D Zelda game on Wii U that’s hardcore and is very challenging and difficult, and a new 3D Metroid that fully immerses me and gets me lost in its world.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            yeah 3D mario sounds nice , and the 3D zelda with dialog options and multiple endings that makes every choice counts ^_^ , and the metroid game with vehicles and planes ,with epic multiplayer

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Nintendo will never go that route with Zelda-I mean sure during Skyward Sword they gave those little dialog options for certain cutscenes so that each person experiences them differently I suppose but they definitely wouldn’t do multiple endings, that would just confuse the story line even further. I think they should at least give Link different classes he can choose from as he wears different stuff and uses different items all the time so I think that would be a better fit. The idea for Metroid I actually do agree with-except that the planes would actually be ships. Also, since Metroid is inspired heavily by Alien, they should add horror elements to the game or at least moments of major suspense. I don’t think they will add multiplayer again-I mean they added it only for Metroid Prime 2 so unless they do something cool that isn’t found in other muliplayer games like Halo, they won’t bring it back for the sake of it. But then again, Retro Studios is bound to make it again so perhaps they will come up with something.

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            you mean like dante in DMC where you can choose to be a gunsliger or swordmaster , sounds good with ability to switch of the fly to make the combat continues and make the arrows faster and stronger he can be a good gunsliger kinda like green arrow and off course more moves with the swords and more weapons and items like you said , that would be great . yeah i meant spaceships but i wrote planes it by mistake -_- and the horror aspect is a bit hard to make specially this game is action game , but maybe if the made a prequel and they showed metroid before becoming a soldier horror aspect would be perfect , it have a great potential for an epic multiplayer with biger maps jetbacks and different classes it would be nice . and sorry for the late reply it was crazy days for me with collage and boring life :/

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            yeah, except they make the customization deeper than that. I think if they added suspense with maybe jump scares and perhaps limited supply or life force and abilities for Samus Aran that would make it even more interesting how she leverages that. after Metroid: Other M, I don’t think they’ll do a prequel anytime soon or ever. and yeah, that’s cool, college has been keeping me very busy too. So much I haven’t had lotta time to play lately :(

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            that sounds awesome , they should hire you for your ideas (Y) , ok maybe not prequel maybe a sequel or new storyline that will refresh the series . yeah its sucj a drag specially in the upcoming 3 months the games are a lot and awesome i should re schedule my time to make sure ill play them all :D

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah, that would be a dream come true if I could work at Nintendo-and meet Shigeru Miyamoto in person. Yeah a sequel or new story line that will rebirth the series, again. Yeah, games like Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and Mario Kart 8 will hold me off as I don’t have PS4 or Xbox One yet to play anything. I hope as my classes start coming to a close in the next few months, I get more time. I think no matter how old you are, no one will ever be able to play them all-unless they were there from the origin of video games when they started. I hope to play all the classics from the 80′s and 90′s I missed out on and any 2000′s titles I never played, and then more recent 2010′s titles. My gaming life gets better everyday with every new game that releases :D

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            my dream job is working at R* capcom or ubisoft their games are my fav :D , i don’t have next gen but i have 360 so i can play lightning returns lords of shadow 2 dark souls 2 and titanfall im gonna be so broke in march lol . ive missed some of the big games this gen like ff13 and mario galaxy 1 and 2 and i didn’t play diablo cause its not my type of game . the old games i guess i missed FFviii and FFX and X-2 and shadow of the colossus that’s the big games ive missed , but i don’t know about the 70′s games O.o the first game ive played is super mario bros 82 or 85 i guess …

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            I also have a dream job of working at Sony-specifically with Sony Santa Monica or Naughty Dog, or even Japan Studio, or even on the Halo franchise at Microsoft, as that’s my favorite FPS series of all time. I’d also like to work at Kojima Productions or Crystal Dynamics or even Square Enix, on the Kingdom Hearts franchise. I’ll be getting Lightning Returns on PS3, and LOS2 on 360 while I wait until I get Xbox One to play Titanfall, unless Respawn has a beta for the 360 version that I can play. I already got money still from gift cards I got for Christmas so I’ll be using those to get whatever games I can get in the next couple months. I never played the first ff13 games. Mario galaxy 1 and 2 were amazing-outta this world (pun intended). I didn’t like diablo either-I mean I don’t mind playing a top down RTS survival game like Pikmin but when it comes to other games and genres it just doesn’t click and that’s what Diablo ended up being basically. Nintendo knows how to do RTS very well-that’s a genre they should explore more IMHO. I really miss OoT and Super Mario Sunshine-I hope Nintendo does HD remakes for Wii U in the near future for games from Gamecube and even before that. I hope to get FF X/X-2 HD remake soon after it comes out, and I never played FF VIII and wish I could’ve played FF VII, or even VI. I have Shadow of the Colossus HD on my PS3 with PS+ but haven’t played yet since I’m doing the second play through of ICO HD, and so many others such as Chrono Trigger and and many others I don’t know if I’ll ever get to play. I think 70′s games such as Xevious, Arkanoid, and Space Invaders should be given another play through. The first game I ever played was Super Mario Sunshine on GameCube. And I have my dad to thank for getting it, and Nintendo for making it. My dad was a hardcore gamer then so he was always getting everything Nintendo, but now he’s kinda laid back about it, for lack of a better term. Without all that, I would’ve never got into video games. So much we have to be thankful for that we don’t realize we should be grateful for until many years pass by and the days of old have past and we can never have them back. My dad first played in arcades when he was a teenager and got NES as his first console with The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario Bros. The only things he ever plays now is Nintendo-he is one of the most hardcore Nintendo gamers you will ever meet, and still looks forward to Nintendo to this day, willing to play Mario and Zelda. He’s only mainly played those and other Nintendo IP. I don’t regret a moment of it, ever. Who got you into the gaming scene?

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            working for sony or ms would be awesome , making a god of war game or halo or gears would be great . i played mario sunshine on my pc before 3 months (emulator) it was really cool and funny too ,and what is OoT !!! i didn’t own wii that why i missed mari galaxy , i had ps3 for while but i sold it before playing the last of us -_- i tried some levels with my friend ps3 its really awesome i too bad i missed it . i only liked few top down games and that is generals lord of the rings battle for middle earth and pikmen though i didn’t finish pikmen but it was really fun . my dad wasn’t gamer but he is the one who bought me the NES we was visiting egypt so he bought it to me as a gift and from mario bomber man and contra i became a gamer :D .

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Yeah, super mario sunshine was awesome. what emulator did you use? and OoT is The Legend of Zelda;Ocarina of Time. The most famous entry in the Zelda franchise-tied with A Link To The Past supposedly. The first foray into 3D for the series that helped establish how many modern 3D games play today. That was hailed as one of the greatest games ever. period. that changed gaming forever. came out on N64. and was re-released on Gamecube and 3DS. It’s a once in a lifetime experience. After playing it, video games made later on will pail in comparison mostly to its game design, as its practically flawless. You have to play it-and its sequel Majora’s Mask. Ask any gamer what Ocarina of Time is and they’ll tell you all the great memories they have of it. The Wii was worth it, especially for The Legend of Zelda:Skyward Sword-the killer app for the system. Yeah, The Last of Us was also a once in a lifetime experience. It’s worth getting a PS3 to play that, and also MGS4:Guns of the Patriots. I finished pikmin 1 but didn’t finish the final part of pikmin 2. I’ve never been to egypt but my grandma has. At least you still became a gamer ;)

          • Sǯdi Sǻymeh

            i have the dolphin emulator its pretty good and can make the graphics 10 times better i used it for mario 64 and pokemon glow gaze , oh yeah i know ocrania of time i just didn’t know that OoT was its shortcut lol , i played some levels of it but didn’t finish but it was really good i played MGS4 i had PS3 for while but i sold it . im planning on buying a 3ds so i might pick ocrania of time to play it again :D . i want to get pokemon x and y and monster hunter and luigis mansion dark moon . egypt is a nice country and the pyramids are epic i went inside them its a real life adventure , you should go there someday you’ll love it

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh yeah, I forgot about Dolphin. Where did you get it to download it? oh ok, and yeah the game was great. get 3DS XL as I found 3DS too small for my hands after some time. I want those game too, and many others like Mario and Luigi:Dream Team. Coo, I ought to go there someday. I hope I can.

  • dapaintrain

    To hard to tell the difference just glancing at those gifs and the screenshot below pc had Lara covered in blood and definitive had no blood just dirt.

    • chitown

      The difference in the first gif was pretty glaringly obvious. The DE is better by a pretty wide margin.

      • Dakan45

        Not at all, quite the opposite, Where are the godrays from the pc verson? Why the rocks and the ground looks blurry? You must confusing which version is which.

      • Junoh315

        The character models were improved. The actual lighting and such is the same. They had more time to work on better models and improved physics so of course it will look better.